Player Contracts

Chris Chan wrote:He could move for more money, but Im not sure there are that many clubs at the moment who would be a 'step up' footballing wise for Theo

correct

Samritpal Singh wrote:Rosicky likely to sign new contract in mid-February.

Hope this is not true. IMO he brings nothing to the team.

Spartan wrote:

Samritpal Singh wrote:Rosicky likely to sign new contract in mid-February.

Hope this is not true. IMO he brings nothing to the team.

Thought he's been excellent so far? I mean not as good as Arteta - Song - Ramsey partnership but still, he did good when called upon.

I think he has been good this season, and does add something different. The main problem is the lack of goals, but then again I think it is a major issue with all our midfielders.

Chris Chan wrote:I think he has been good this season, and does add something different. The main problem is the lack of goals, but then again I think it is a major issue with all our midfielders.

Its an issue with our formation, style and personnel now without Fabregas, I genuinely hope that with the likelihood of Wilshire playing in a more advanced role when he returns that it will add goals to his game. But having said that its important not to expect too much from a youngster who has been injured for ages.

It's also not like Wilshere was scoring for fun last year.

Chris Chan wrote:WE have to be careful with who we sign now. In that we have to plan for next year. No signing ineffective players to long (ish) contracts. I like how Rosicky has played this season, but I do wonder if he is ever going to score for us again (then again I worry about that with everyone who isnt RVP). If we keep Rosicky, no way we should sign Benayoun and also should mean we need to try and offload Diaby

Offloading diaby should have been done in he last window imo.....dead wood just sucking up the wage bill,
Good luck to the lad but we need better....

So, back to that tantalising dilemma:

IF RVP did not want to sign another contract, would you hypothetically:

- Accept a 40m pound bid for him?

- Keep him for 1 more season and let him leave for free (at which stage he will be 30 (in August))

Let him leave for free. The amount of goals he does and will offer are way more than his pricetag.

Surely the 40 mil? but that absolutely must go back into the team and someone who can ably replace RVP needs to be bought for big money. Though the board would probably suck up the money and we'd buy a 10mil or so chamakh like striker. So in this case I would rather want RVP to stay that last year since he is a great leader to our team and quite possibly the best striker in the world right now, not to mention he's absolutely injury free. So basically it depends on what the club plans on doing with that money we get.

I'd let him to run down his contract for 3 reasons:
1) There is no one in the world who could score as many goals, bring up the entire team to play, and be an exemplary captain
2) If there was someone like that, would he come to us?/can we afford him?
3) He might still renew (I know that's stupid but at least there's a hope) at the end of the 2013 season.

Barcelona cunts are already starting to fish around making denials about wanting van persie, but we all know once they start talking the shit never ends...

Barcelona don't need a no.9, otherwise I'm sure they would be all over him.

Van Roy Bostanian wrote:3) He might still renew (I know that's stupid but at least there's a hope) at the end of the 2013 season.

That's not stupid at all in my opinion. He'd have to be convinced, ie something would have to change. We'd have to strengthen, to start looking far more convincing as a team. It's possible.

Fuck money money money. If we sell an irreplaceable player for meaningless money then we're stupid.

If we win the Facup this year, sign Hazard this summer and win another trophy next year i'm confident he'll stay.

John Foxall wrote:Barcelona don't need a no.9, otherwise I'm sure they would be all over him.

Barcelona didnt need Ibra but they signed him anyway. They didn't NEED fabregas, but they signed him anyway. Get where I'm going...

Jason Morrison wrote:

John Foxall wrote:Barcelona don't need a no.9, otherwise I'm sure they would be all over him.

Barcelona didnt need Ibra but they signed him anyway. They didn't NEED fabregas, but they signed him anyway. Get where I'm going...

Exactly, Barca don''t buy because they NEED someone, just to strengthen more and more and i honestly feel that if RVP were to leave us, it would only be to barca.

Let him run his contract down for the reasons mentioned above and also because after what has happened in the last couple of seasons, we won't spend the money on an adequate replacement, anyway.

I have absolute faith that RvP will sign a new contract with us. Its all down to the club, we just need to match his ambitions, unlike what we did with fabregas. But Im sure at the end if the day RvP will sign a new 4year deal worth around 150-180k a week. He deserves i
that atleast.

Jason Morrison wrote:Barcelona cunts are already starting to fish around making denials about wanting van persie, but we all know once they start talking the shit never ends...

Just had a look and see the vice president denying anything at the moment. I too thought: cunts.

But if the reporters ask them, they have to answer something. It is more the media than bacelona.

Jason Morrison wrote:

John Foxall wrote:Barcelona don't need a no.9, otherwise I'm sure they would be all over him.

Barcelona didnt need Ibra but they signed him anyway. They didn't NEED fabregas, but they signed him anyway. Get where I'm going...

That's overgeneralizing Guardiola's thinking. He genuinely believed that they needed a plan B, but subsequently realised that Ibra was a mistake.

I don't think he's going to buy another striker when their system doesn't need a no.9 and they've just brought in Alexis and Fabregas.

Fabregas is different anyway. They do need him in the sense that Xavi isn't going to play for ever and on the off chance that one of Xavi and Iniesta get injured like in 09/10, Fabregas just happens to be the third best creative midfielder in Europe, give or take a Sneijder.

Of course they might want him anyway, but the fact that they got Ibra doesn't make it more likely that they'll want him, but less imo.

the fact that RM are probably going to win la liga may make it more likely though, espcially if they fail to defend the CL

John Foxall wrote:

Jason Morrison wrote:

John Foxall wrote:Barcelona don't need a no.9, otherwise I'm sure they would be all over him.

Barcelona didnt need Ibra but they signed him anyway. They didn't NEED fabregas, but they signed him anyway. Get where I'm going...

That's overgeneralizing Guardiola's thinking. He genuinely believed that they needed a plan B, but subsequently realised that Ibra was a mistake.

I don't think he's going to buy another striker when their system doesn't need a no.9 and they've just brought in Alexis and Fabregas.

Fabregas is different anyway. They do need him in the sense that Xavi isn't going to play for ever and on the off chance that one of Xavi and Iniesta get injured like in 09/10, Fabregas just happens to be the third best creative midfielder in Europe, give or take a Sneijder.

Of course they might want him anyway, but the fact that they got Ibra doesn't make it more likely that they'll want him, but less imo.

I disagree with this.

RVP would be perfect for Barcelona. Right now, they don't really have a striker (apart from Villa) that plays central up front and plays with their back to goal. Also, RVP would be on the end of lots of build up play knocking them in from 6 yards like he does for us.

Villa spent most of his time playing from the left, as he did before that for Valencia. What they don't need is someone to get in Messi's way. What need would they have for a back to goal striker anyway?

John Foxall wrote:Villa spent most of his time playing from the left, as he did before that for Valencia. What they don't need is someone to get in Messi's way. What need would they have for a back to goal striker anyway?

For when the ball is in their half, and they look to bring it out of defence.

I take your point though. It's not that have a Van Persie style central striker already, it is that they don't play with one. He'd be very handy at getting on the end of their crosses/passes across the 6 yard box like he does for us.