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Post by Mario Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:02 am

Should keep this going.

Kyle Bartley starts today for Rangers.

Vito Mannone played for Hull yesterday in a 3-1 win. Was at fault for Ipswich's goal.

For a quick Q&A, biography and interview with some of the youngsters, go here - www.arsenal.com/news/reserves-news/young-guns

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Post by Vanig Bostanian Mon Jan 09, 2012 1:51 am


Vito Mannone played for Hull yesterday in a 3-1 win. Was at fault for Ipswich's goal.

Lol

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Post by Christopher Flanagan Mon Jan 09, 2012 8:19 am

Rangers won 4-0. Bartley has done very well there.
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Post by Mario Mon Jan 09, 2012 11:37 pm

Kyle Bartley
Arbroath 0-4 Rangers
Sunday, January 8
Kyle Bartley played for 74 minutes of Rangers' comfortable Scottish Cup victory at Arbroath on Sunday before being substituted after sustaining an ankle injury.

Vito Mannone
Hull City 3-1 Ipswich Town
Saturday, January 7
Vito Mannone played the full 90 minutes as Hull City claimed a place in the FA Cup Fourth Round after beating Ipswich 3-1.

Emmanuel Frimpong
Birmingham 0-0 Wolves
Saturday, January 7
Emmanuel Frimpong was an unused substitute as Wolves were held to a goalless draw at Birmingham in the FA Cup Third Round.

Nicklas Bendtner
Peterborough 0-2 Sunderland
Sunday, January 8
Nicklas Bendtner did not feature in Martin O'Neill's side's 2-0 victory at Peterborough in the FA Cup Third Round on Sunday.

Luke Freeman
Reading 0-1 Stevenage
Saturday, January 7
Luke Freeman played 71 miniutes of Stevenage's FA Cup Third-Round victory at Reading, before being replaced.

Sanchez Watt
Sheffield Wednesday 1-0 West Ham
Sunday, January 8
Sanchez Watt did not feature in Sheffield Wednesday's FA Cup Third-Round win against West Ham on Sunday.

Chuks Aneke
Reading 0-1 Stevenage
Saturday, January 7
Chuks Aneke did not feature in Saturday's surprise win for Stevenage at Reading as he was suspended following a red card in his previous match.

Henri Lansbury
Sheffield Wednesday 1-0 West Ham
Sunday, January 8
Henri Lansbury played the whole match as West Ham were knocked out of the FA Cup by League One side Sheffield Wednesday on Sunday.

Carlos Vela
Real Sociedad 0-0 Osasuna
Saturday, January 7
Carlos Vela played 78 minutes of Real Sociedad's goalless draw with Osasuna on Saturday, before being replaced by Diego Ifran.

Pedro Botelho
Rayo Vallecano 2-1 Sevilla
Sunday, January 8
Pedro Botelho did not feature in Rayo Vallecano's victory over Sevilla on Sunday.

Samuel Galindo
Gimnastic Tarragona 0-2 Real Murcia
Saturday, January 7
Samuel Galindo was an unused substitute as Gimnastic Tarragona lost 2-0 at home to Real Murcia on Saturday.

Wellington
Levante 0-0 Mallorca
Saturday, January 7
Wellington did not feature in Levante's 0-0 draw with Mallorca on Saturday.

Joel Campbell
Lorient
Joel Campbell did not play this weekend with France in its winter break.

Denilson
Sao Paulo
Sao Paulo are currently in their off-season having finished their final round of matches.

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Post by Mario Wed Jan 11, 2012 12:34 am

We have sold Luke Freeman to Stevenage for an undisclosed fee. This came out of the blue, would have thought he gets until the end of the season. We've kept on much worse players for much longer.

Not that I think he would have made it in the 1st team or anything. But good luck to him.

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Post by Mohamed Samir Wed Jan 11, 2012 1:00 am

Coquelin signed a new contract, excellent squad player.
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Post by Jenks1981 Wed Jan 11, 2012 2:18 am

Christopher Flanagan wrote:Rangers won 4-0. Bartley has done very well there.

The Freeman story took me by suprise too, Chris have you watched any games because I havent. Any more thoughts on his potential future here if he finishes the season at Rangers in the same way?

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Post by Christopher Flanagan Wed Jan 11, 2012 9:19 am

I've watched a couple but honestly Scottish football is such hard work to watch. The last match I watch was a couple of weeks ago and Bartley was basically playing at number 10. I mean, they often play him in midfield and that, but bloody hell, it tells you something when the biggest club in Scotland is playing a young centre half behind the striker. He most plays at DM of course, but Blimey.

Anyway, I'm surprised Freeman has been let go like that. I wonder if we ended up making a profit on him after his fee and subsequent wages are accounted for. Seems unlikely.
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Post by Mario Wed Jan 11, 2012 9:54 am

I doubt it. To even get the 200k fee back would be a stretch. But we would have included a sell-on fee and things like that. So let's hope he does a David Bentley and makes us a few million in a few years time.

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Post by Chris Chan Wed Jan 11, 2012 10:23 am

Only takes one transfer to a top champ side/lower prem to make the money back. Freeman does seem to know where the back of the net is so there is always hope we can make his fee back and some

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Post by Chris Chan Wed Jan 11, 2012 10:25 am

Only takes one transfer to a top champ side/lower prem to make the money back. Freeman does seem to know where the back of the net is so there is always hope we can make his fee back and some

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Post by Samritpal Singh Wed Jan 11, 2012 4:28 pm

Luke Freeman has been sold to Stevenage. Never lived up the hype.
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Post by Greg Waters Wed Jan 11, 2012 6:42 pm

"Carlos Vela
Real Sociedad 0-0 Osasuna
Saturday, January 7
Carlos Vela played 78 minutes of Real Sociedad's goalless draw with Osasuna on Saturday, before being replaced by Diego Ifran."

Carlos Vela??? Forgot he existed.

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Post by Mario Wed Jan 11, 2012 11:19 pm

Another start for the reserves for Park and Ryo. Toral makes his reserves debut, too. 1pm KO against Villa who have a very good youth set up and have already beaten us this season.


Arsenal Reserves: Shea, Hajrovic, Angha, Boateng, Hoyte, Miyaichi, Toral, Ebecilio, Eastmond, Park, Murphy

Subs: Rees, Charles-Cook, Ansah, Monteiro, Brislen Hall.

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Post by Jenks1981 Thu Jan 12, 2012 12:42 am

Rhys Murphy has never quite cut it has he...

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Post by Mario Thu Jan 12, 2012 1:22 am

He hasn't. Spent most of his time here injured unfortunately which has hampered his development. But not good enough. He, Hoyte, Eastmond from that line up are all playing for moves at the end of the season.

Park got subbed off at half time for Josh Rees, who has taken 10 minutes to equalise.

Currently 1-1 with about half an hour left.

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Post by Jenks1981 Thu Jan 12, 2012 2:29 am

How was Park?

The clueless media all claimed that Wenger made panic buys in the Summer which is obvioudly not the case, bar maybe Park? We stole him at the 11th hour from Lille and maybe took a slight gamble, which hasnt paid off yet, at least he didnt cost much at all.

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Post by Christopher Flanagan Thu Jan 12, 2012 6:19 am

Samritpal Singh wrote:Luke Freeman has been sold to Stevenage. Never lived up the hype.

Sam on the ball as ever there...
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Post by Christopher Flanagan Thu Jan 12, 2012 6:22 am

Park is such a weird one. Had a massive conversation with a mate at work about it today. Wenger doesn't buy players without having scouted the shit out of them. The cynic in me thinks it's just a marketing exercise; clearly it's an area we are trying to exploit.

And on the subject of Toral, I hope he choses to play for England.
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Post by Chris Chan Thu Jan 12, 2012 9:22 am

Inamoto mk II??

Toral must be pretty special playing in the reserves at 16. Hopefully can expect big things from him

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Post by Jonathan Prendergast Thu Jan 12, 2012 9:26 am

Christopher Flanagan wrote:
Samritpal Singh wrote:Luke Freeman has been sold to Stevenage. Never lived up the hype.

Sam on the ball as ever there...

haha
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Post by Chris Chan Thu Jan 12, 2012 9:57 am

Arsenal face intense competition to sign the Southampton left-back Luke Shaw, with Chelsea and Manchester City both now in the race for the 16-year-old who is rated as one of the best prospects in English football.

The Championship club value the player at around £4m even though he is yet to make his first-team debut. It is anticipated that Shaw, an unused substitute for Nigel Adkins' side in the weekend's 2-1 win over Coventry City in the FA Cup third round, will be watched by all the Premier League's leading clubs when he plays for Southampton under-18s in the fourth round of the FA Youth Cup against Bolton at the Reebok Stadium tonight.

Arsenal have so far been confident of signing the player, having also secured Theo Walcott and Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain from the club in the last six years, but Shaw will not lack for suitors. He is a regular in the England under-17s team and his potential has been stressed by the Football Association's director of football development, Sir Trevor Brooking.

Originally from Kingston, Surrey, Shaw is understood to have agreed a professional deal with Southampton to begin when he turns 17 in July, the earliest point he can sign such terms. The new Elite Player Performance Plan system, which begins from the start of next season, is unlikely to affect Southampton in this case, such is the scale of the interest in him.

Even under the new system, the buying and selling clubs can agree to put aside the pre-established sliding scale for calculating compensation and come to a "mutually agreed fee".

Shaw represents another triumph for the Southampton academy who have a formidable record in recent years, producing Gareth Bale, Walcott and Oxlade-Chamberlain among others. The current under-18s team, coached by former Southampton player Jason Dodd, beat Sheffield United 7-0 to reach the fourth round. Their winger Calum Chambers is also highly rated.

Whether Shaw leaves this month or next summer will depend on whether the clubs chasing him can agree a fee with Southampton. An asking price of £4m is extremely high for a teenager who has not even played senior football but the market value for the best young players, and in particular, the best young English players, is rising all the time.

Shaw is part of the England under-17s squad that will play a round-robin with Georgia, Ukraine and Spain in Georgia in March. The winning team will play in the European Under-17 Championship in Slovenia in May.

Both Manchester City and Liverpool have been active buyers of teenagers recently, with smaller clubs now more willing to cash in their academy products lest the coming EPPP rules rein in the scale of fees. In most cases it is a question of out-bidding rival clubs by offering ever-more lucrative professional deals to boys.

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Post by Zaid Derweesh Thu Jan 12, 2012 10:41 am

4m for a left back we won't see for a few years?

It's a gamble, but if he does come good, 4m will be nothing at all.


Alternatively, we could take that 4m and put it in the Gotze-fund.

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Post by Chris Chan Thu Jan 12, 2012 10:47 am

Southampton seem to be a conveyor belt of young talent

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Post by Joey Schwab Thu Jan 12, 2012 11:10 am

straight swap for Gibbs?
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