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Post by Subrat Koirala on Tue Sep 04, 2012 5:56 pm

With the closure of the transfer window, I thought of looking into the players available for every positions of the top 4 teams plus Chelsea. Here is how it looks:

GK:

1. Man City - Hart, Pantilimon
2. Man United - de Gea, Lindegaard
3. Arsenal - Szczesny, Fabianski, Mannone, Martinez
4. Tottenham - Friedel, Gomes, Cudicini, Lloris
5. Chelsea - Cech, Hilario, Turnbull

CB:

1. Man City - Kompany, Lescott, Toure, Nastasic
2. Man United - Ferdinand, Vidic, Evans, Smalling, Jones
3. Arsenal - Per, Kos, Vermaelen, Squillaci, Miquel, Djourou
4. Tottenham - Gallas, Vertonghen, Dawson, Caulker
5. Chelsea - Terry, Luiz, Cahill, Ivanovic

RB:

1. Man City - Zabaleta, Maicon, Richards
2. Man United - Rafael, Smalling, Wotton
3. Arsenal - Sagna, Jenkinson, Kos, Coquelin
4. Tott - Walker, Naughton
5. Chelsea - Ivanovic, Azpilicueta, Ferreira

LB:

1. Man City - Clichy, Kolarov, Zabaleta, Rekik
2. Man United - Evra, Buttner, Rafael, Fryers
3. Arsenal - Gibbs, Santos, Vermaelen, Coquelin, Miquel
4. Tott - Ekotto, Smith, Gallas
5. Chelsea - Cole, Bertrand, Ferreira

CM/DM/CAM:

1. Man City - Yaya Toure, Barry, Rodwell, Milner, Garcia, Razak, Silva, Nasri
2. Man United - Kagawa, Cleverly, Carrick, Scholes, Giggs, Fletcher, Anderson, Powell
3. Arsenal - Arteta, Diaby, Cazorla, Rosicky, Ramsey, Wilshere, Coquelin, Chamberlain, Arshavin
4. Tottenham - Dembele, Sandro, Sigurdsson, Jenas, Livermore, Huddlestone, Townsend
5. Chelsea - Lampard, Mata, Mikel, Ramires, Marin, Romeu

LM/RM/Wingers:

1. Man City - Nasri, Sinclair, Silva, Milner
2. Man United - Valencia, Young, Nani, Giggs
3. Arsenal - Gervinho, Walcott, Arshavin, Cazorla, Chamberlain, Podolski
4. Tott - Bale, Lennon, Dempsey, Dembele
5. Chelsea - Hazard, Mata, Oscar, Moses, Marin

Strikers:

1. Man City - Tevez, Dzeko, Balotelli, Aguero
2. Man United - Rooney, Van Per$ie, Welbeck, Hernandez, Macheda
3. Arsenal - Giroud, Podolski, Chamakh, Arshavin, Walcott
4. Tott - Defoe, Adebayor, Kane, Lancaster
5. Chelsea - Torres, Sturridge

While its obvious Manchester City have probably the best squad, our squad looks better and slightly more versatile than the other teams. How do you feel about our squad compared to the others? Throw in your thoughts.
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Post by ralph avedikian on Tue Sep 04, 2012 9:17 pm

In the 'strikers' department we are the weakest, alongside Chelsea, probably also our wingers aren't the best. The rest is good.

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Post by Vanig Bostanian on Wed Sep 05, 2012 8:59 am

United have some weak links but their squad is pretty damn good, and apart from the strikers (I still think Torres is/can be world class), have a very good squad that has a core that's been there, done that.

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Post by Vanig Bostanian on Wed Sep 05, 2012 9:00 am

Which is why I think we'll come fourth.

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Post by Hisham El Mawan on Wed Sep 05, 2012 10:44 am

ralph avedikian wrote:In the 'strikers' department we are the weakest, alongside Chelsea, probably also our wingers aren't the best. The rest is good.

Let me get this straight, you think Giroud, Podolski, Chamakh, Arshavin, and Walcott are weaker than Defoe, Adebayor, Kane, Lancaster? I don't even know who those last two strikers are!

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Post by Hisham El Mawan on Wed Sep 05, 2012 10:48 am

Van Roy Bostanian wrote:Which is why I think we'll come fourth.

I think we could probably come third, maybe even second if one of the Manchester clubs slip up.

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Post by Zaid Derweesh on Fri Sep 07, 2012 7:17 am

GK:
2. Man United - de Gea, Lindegaard (two quality keepers, even if Hart or Lloris is the best individually)

CB:
3. Arsenal - Per, Kos, Vermaelen, Squillaci, Miquel, Djourou (weird, but we seem to have the best individual defenders for me)

RB:
1. Man City - Zabaleta, Maicon, Richards (depends on Maicon's form, but that looks solid - beyond Sagna we're not proven)

LB:
5. Chelsea - Cole, Bertrand, Ferreira (Bertrand looks decent, so will give them this)

CM/DM/CAM:
1. Man City - Yaya Toure, Barry, Rodwell, Milner, Garcia, Razak, Silva, Nasri
(Man City hands down. Ours has potential, too many question marks, not enough defensive strength)

LM/RM/Wingers:

2. Man United - Valencia, Young, Nani, Giggs
(Spurs close, but Man Utd's strength is in their wingers)

Strikers:

1. Man City - Tevez, Dzeko, Balotelli, Aguero
(four top class strikers, Man Utd come next with 2 top class strikers and some good promising kids)

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Post by Samritpal Singh on Fri Sep 07, 2012 8:47 am

Don't think United will do good this season. I think we're capable of getting 2nd. Only worry is Chelsea and City, which I think one of them too will fall out.

Then again, we all know United.
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Post by Hisham El Mawan on Fri Sep 07, 2012 11:13 am

Samritpal Singh wrote:Don't think United will do good this season. I think we're capable of getting 2nd. Only worry is Chelsea and City, which I think one of them too will fall out.

Then again, we all know United.

I see us being able to snag 2nd. Something about United seems different, in a bad (good for us) way. Seeing as Chelsea has essentially given the team an almost-full makeover, they're not going to in full gear for a little bit. Liverpool and Spurs are going to be trash.

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Post by Adriel Williams on Fri Sep 07, 2012 2:59 pm

Chelsea don't fool me at all. Hazard still has more questions than answers about him for me, And they havent played any team of note as yet. My suspicions were peaked as Atletico smashed them in one half of football (albeit at the hands of Falcao...but it was still far too easy for the "Champs of Europe" to get bludgeoned like that). Their luck will run out soon enough and i wont be surprised if they are duking it out for Europa league spots.

As far as our squad, i believe injuries will be our undoign as usual. We have enough to be in CL quaification but its a matter of endurance and fitness. We need to figure it out at the striker position too. We have the second fewest shots in the box in the PL right now. Giroud needs to get his feet under him a bit quicker. But lets take stock of ourselves at X-mas. If we are in 4th spot or above then, i doubt we will drop below there in the second half.

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Post by Hisham El Mawan on Fri Sep 07, 2012 4:23 pm

I see us being in first place by January. Not saying we'll win it, but I have a feeling.

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Post by Jonathan Prendergast on Thu Sep 13, 2012 3:45 pm

United and City are far ahead in terms of strikers, and finished way ahead of the pack last season. Goes to show how important strikers are. Especially when it is our weak spot.

GK - Maybe Spurs have the best here, with Friedel and Lloris. But I would rather Hart than the others.

Otherwise, agree with Zaid.
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Post by Hisham El Mawan on Thu Sep 13, 2012 4:00 pm

Jonathan Prendergast wrote:United and City are far ahead in terms of strikers, and finished way ahead of the pack last season. Goes to show how important strikers are. Especially when it is our weak spot.

GK - Maybe Spurs have the best here, with Friedel and Lloris. But I would rather Hart than the others.

Otherwise, agree with Zaid.

Lloris going to Spurs is one of the dumbest transfers I've ever heard of. There's no upside to it for him!

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Post by Subrat Koirala on Fri Sep 14, 2012 2:09 am

Hisham El Mawan wrote:
Jonathan Prendergast wrote:United and City are far ahead in terms of strikers, and finished way ahead of the pack last season. Goes to show how important strikers are. Especially when it is our weak spot.

GK - Maybe Spurs have the best here, with Friedel and Lloris. But I would rather Hart than the others.

Otherwise, agree with Zaid.

Lloris going to Spurs is one of the dumbest transfers I've ever heard of. There's no upside to it for him!
yeah. They are very lightweight in other areas of the pitch. I assume they tried to sign Moutinho and a few other players, but still Lloris is a very odd move, from both Tottenham and Lloris' perspective.
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Post by John Foxall on Fri Sep 14, 2012 4:23 am

Lloris had some problems dealing with crosses into the box when he started at Lyon. He's got better but going from France to the PL demands far more precision in that area of a GK's game. I wouldn't be surprised if sides targetted that.

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Post by Jonathan Prendergast on Fri Sep 14, 2012 9:06 am

Lyon seemed desperate to sell.
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Post by Vanig Bostanian on Fri Sep 14, 2012 4:50 pm

Lloris is the Mexes of goalkeepers ie, not convincing.

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Post by Hisham El Mawan on Fri Sep 14, 2012 5:22 pm

Jonathan Prendergast wrote:Lyon seemed desperate to sell.

Don't understand why Lyon sold him, or why he made the move. He's only 25, is the starting keeper for France as well as one of the best keepers in the world, and was at Lyon, one of the biggest clubs in the French League (one that regularly features in the Champions League). And now he's at a team where he's competing with Friedel and Cudicini for a starting spot, a team that is only really good enough to end up in the Europa League. Spurs aren't a mediocre team, as much as I hate to admit it, but I really do believe the Lloris had a much better thing going at Lyon.

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Post by Mike York on Fri Sep 14, 2012 10:23 pm

In recent France games I have watched it is noticeable that opposition teams try to target Lloris' weakness at coming out and catching a ball. I expect the same to happen to him in this league.

He probably had better options than Spurs if went stayed at Lyon or moved to another country. If he wanted to come to England though then all the other big teams have good goalkeepers with years ahead of them. Even Cech is only 30 I think.
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