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Post by Subrat Koirala on Sun Apr 15, 2012 10:21 pm

Jonathan Prendergast wrote:Rosicky has prov proved something. Nasri proved 25m pounds worth of something. The question is more if they have achieved anything.
yeah! I guess there's difference between 'proving' and 'achieving'. Rosicky has proved that he still has it in his legs to take a team from 13 points behind to a comfortable 3rd spot on table. But he hasn't achieved anything yet. And talking about achievement, neither has Nasri with Man City.
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Post by John Foxall on Sun Apr 15, 2012 10:29 pm

Christopher Flanagan wrote:It's unfair on John O'Shea if anything, who has played a much more important role at a much more successful club.

Rosicky has proven absolutely nothing in England. Nothing whatsoever.

John O'Shea had an important role? How on Earth can you say that. He was just the kind of squad player that is eminently replaceable.

Rosicky had the bad luck of spending almost two years out injured. When fit and considered worthy of a regular starting place, he has always been very effective.

He wasn't an important first team player when he returned from injury because in the meantime we'd signed other players but since the turn of the year it's obvious that he's been a very important first team player. No-one else could have played the role he played, certainly not Ramsey nor anyone else in the squad.

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Post by ralph avedikian on Sun Apr 15, 2012 10:58 pm

John Foxall wrote:
Christopher Flanagan wrote:It's unfair on John O'Shea if anything, who has played a much more important role at a much more successful club.

Rosicky has proven absolutely nothing in England. Nothing whatsoever.

John O'Shea had an important role? How on Earth can you say that. He was just the kind of squad player that is eminently replaceable.

Rosicky had the bad luck of spending almost two years out injured. When fit and considered worthy of a regular starting place, he has always been very effective.

He wasn't an important first team player when he returned from injury because in the meantime we'd signed other players but since the turn of the year it's obvious that he's been a very important first team player. No-one else could have played the role he played, certainly not Ramsey nor anyone else in the squad.

Comparing O'shea to Rosicky ?? ppff.. without him we wouldn't be 3rd place.

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Post by ralph avedikian on Sun Apr 15, 2012 10:59 pm

John Foxall wrote:
Christopher Flanagan wrote:It's unfair on John O'Shea if anything, who has played a much more important role at a much more successful club.

Rosicky has proven absolutely nothing in England. Nothing whatsoever.

John O'Shea had an important role? How on Earth can you say that. He was just the kind of squad player that is eminently replaceable.

Rosicky had the bad luck of spending almost two years out injured. When fit and considered worthy of a regular starting place, he has always been very effective.

He wasn't an important first team player when he returned from injury because in the meantime we'd signed other players but since the turn of the year it's obvious that he's been a very important first team player. No-one else could have played the role he played, certainly not Ramsey nor anyone else in the squad.

Comparing O'shea to Rosicky ?? ppff.. without him we wouldn't be 3rd place.

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Post by Justin Chew on Tue Apr 17, 2012 6:21 pm

Again, I will mention Arteta. We missed him dearly.

By the way , did anyone notice that Arteta is an upgraded version of Denilson instead of Cesc or Nasri.

Great shot on him, side ways passes. Just keeps the ball better and doesn't lose the ball and definitely more hardworking than Denilson.

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Post by Zaid Derweesh on Tue Apr 17, 2012 10:01 pm

Zaid Derweesh wrote:I don't think Sagna is one of our most irreplaceable. Jenkinson has looked good when called upon. Inexperienced but the potential is definitely there, and he's done ok. It's gotta be RVP and Arteta for me - take out Arteta and I think our whole midfield style changes at the moment. None of our backups have that calm control about them that he has.

Also, Chesney.

EDIT: don't mean to take anything away from Sagna, he's still the best RB in the world. But I think Jenkinson is good short-term cover. Whereas Coquelin/Frimpong/Ramsey/Diaby for Arteta doesn't fill me with confidence - none are like-for-like.

Whoever this guy is, he called it.

*puffs out chest*

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Post by Sami Rockfeller on Tue Apr 17, 2012 10:34 pm

Sagna. He was shit yesterday and we paid for it.
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Post by jason.mandryk on Wed Apr 18, 2012 1:09 am

How can the alleged best RB in the world be that poor against a side like Wigan? Very grateful that his blips like that are so rare!
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Post by Richard Wallace on Wed Apr 18, 2012 3:42 am

I think, this season our most important players (in order) have been:

RVP- goal scoring prowess and leader of the team.
Arteta- keeps us ticking, does the simple things well and offers discipline in a more defensive position when song is playing the cesc role!
Koscielny- by far our best and most consistent defender this season.

Having that spine has been vital to our good form this season and those three have been by far the most consistent players for us.
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