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Re: Arsenal Internationals

Post by Vanig Bostanian on Wed Mar 27, 2013 7:59 pm

So the BFG played full 90 for Germany.

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Re: Arsenal Internationals

Post by kique.canto on Thu Mar 28, 2013 4:32 am

Yea he played the full 90 for both games

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Re: Arsenal Internationals

Post by Mario on Thu May 30, 2013 6:55 am

Podolski has scored twice for Germany inside 15 minutes. First goal was after 9 seconds vs Ecuador. Mertesacker is captain. I'm sure there will be better videos of the goals soon, but

http://www.101greatgoals.com/gvideos/lukas-podolski-germany-v-ecuador/#.UaZK6zS7AiM.twitter

http://www.101greatgoals.com/gvideos/lukas-podolski-2-germany-v-ecuador/#.UaZPpMFVjQo.twitter

The Ox and Theo have started for England as wide players. Both quiet in the 1st half.

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Re: Arsenal Internationals

Post by John Foxall on Thu Jun 06, 2013 6:17 am

France Uruguay is on at the moment.

Koscielny defending against Cavani, he's already given him a good clattering once.

Giroud and Sagna are also playing.

Some other good players on show like Capoue, who we seem to be linked with fairly often.

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Re: Arsenal Internationals

Post by Jonathan Prendergast on Fri Jun 07, 2013 2:28 pm

1-0 win for Uruguay. Luis Suarez coming on at half time and scoring on 50 minutes. France had apparently dominated the 1st half.

It looks like it was France's B team, or at least a mix. A lot of (relatively) new names there.

Same for the 2 Germany games. It looks like our players are in the B team at the moment, but possibly Per could break in.

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Re: Arsenal Internationals

Post by Vanig Bostanian on Sat Sep 07, 2013 6:38 pm

Ramsey scored a penalty but other than that I have no clue what each one of our players did because I was too busy not caring about the internationals. Updates please? Did anyone get injured?

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Re: Arsenal Internationals

Post by Vanig Bostanian on Sat Sep 07, 2013 7:32 pm

From the player ratings on goal.com
Cazorla came on in the final ten minutes of the game
Mertesackerand Ozil started for Germany
Wilshere played 59 minutes for England
Theo played the entire game
Sagna Giroud and Laurent played the entire game for France

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Re: Arsenal Internationals

Post by Michael Foster on Sat Sep 07, 2013 8:23 pm

Everyone came through unscathed......

1 more game to go then back to arsenal Smile

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Re: Arsenal Internationals

Post by deep.gurung on Sat Sep 07, 2013 11:10 pm

i prefer club football over world cup, fck the internationals ... fingers crossed we still have a team by end of the week

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Re: Arsenal Internationals

Post by Michael Foster on Tue Sep 10, 2013 7:13 pm

last of the internationals tonight...fingers crossed for no injuries!!!!!

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Post by deep.gurung on Thu Sep 12, 2013 2:52 am

heard rosicky got some injury .. anyone else??

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Post by Michael Foster on Thu Sep 12, 2013 4:12 am

deep.gurung wrote:heard rosicky got some injury .. anyone else??
could be bad news for us......theo,wilshere,rosicky,ramsey,sanogo all suffering with knocks or fitness problems

theo picked up a nasty little achilles injury and is likely to be the worst of the bunch..

rosicky picked up a slight knock..

ramsey had a mishap with an advertising board...should be ok...

wilshere could be counting the costs of fitness levels with two internationals....

sanogo i herd had a minor knock but should be ok

if they are out this leaves us a little thin...

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Post by Jonathan Prendergast on Thu Sep 12, 2013 3:10 pm

Particularly right forward, if The Ox and Theo are out..maybe Ozil will have to play there for a while.

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Re: Arsenal Internationals

Post by Jonathan Prendergast on Wed Oct 09, 2013 9:53 am

Gibbs called into the England squad.

Rosicky allowed to rest from Czech squad as they are unlikely to qualify.

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Post by Jonathan Prendergast on Wed Oct 09, 2013 9:53 am

Le Beouf backs Giroud to start ahead of Benzema against Australia on Friday in a friendly.

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Re: Arsenal Internationals

Post by Vanig Bostanian on Thu Oct 10, 2013 4:57 am

Jonathan Prendergast wrote:Gibbs called into the England squad.

Rosicky allowed to rest from Czech squad as they are unlikely to qualify.
Gibbs is so underrated, I wonder if they see Baines ahead of him because of his defensive abilities or just because he takes good free kicks. That said, I would have loved it if Gibbs stayed and as for Rosicky, the Czech coach should be thanked for having some common sense.

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Re: Arsenal Internationals

Post by John Foxall on Fri Oct 11, 2013 7:44 am

Vanig Bostanian wrote:
Jonathan Prendergast wrote:Gibbs called into the England squad.

Rosicky allowed to rest from Czech squad as they are unlikely to qualify.
Gibbs is so underrated, I wonder if they see Baines ahead of him because of his defensive abilities or just because he takes good free kicks. That said, I would have loved it if Gibbs stayed and as for Rosicky, the Czech coach should be thanked for having some common sense.
Baines is about far more than just free-kicks. He links brilliantly with all players down the left-side, his crossing is excellent and yes he does take a good set piece. He's experienced and he's kept up these high standards for more than a few years now.

Gibbs has time on his side. He may need to be patient given England's strength in that position.

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Re: Arsenal Internationals

Post by Michael Foster on Sat Oct 12, 2013 8:14 am

Bentdner had two tonight...lol

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Post by Jenks1981 on Sun Oct 13, 2013 3:54 am

Good to see, if he can play his way into a bit of form that would be good. Imagine losing Giroud to an injury during a warm up or something, id be gutted.

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Re: Arsenal Internationals

Post by Jonathan Prendergast on Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:04 am

If Giroud's chipped goal against Australia was to win an important game by 1 goal, it would be heralded as one of the best for the year. Or if it was done by RVP or Messi, it would be celebrated. In the circumstances I don't think anyone will give it much respect.

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Re: Arsenal Internationals

Post by Jonathan Prendergast on Wed Oct 16, 2013 9:38 am

Ozil in scoring form. 2 goals in 2 games, and an assist (of course). But went off injured.

Clean sheet for Koscielny.

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Re: Arsenal Internationals

Post by Michael Foster on Thu Oct 17, 2013 2:28 am

Good news with ozil..should be in contention for the game against Norwich....

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Re: Arsenal Internationals

Post by Vanig Bostanian on Fri Oct 18, 2013 6:46 am

"Football is governed with currency at the forefront of its conscience. Everybody knows this. There is no pretence. Even those that run the game speak nakedly of “expanding global markets.” The Football Association responded to universal criticism over their decision to move the Cup Final to a 5.15pm kickoff with a statement that verged on self parody.

The “F.A. Cup with Budweiser Final” was moved with the agreement of “major stakeholders and broadcasters.” The F.A. kindly suggested that National Express (coincidentally, a commercial partner of the F.A.) would be running coaches to Wembley, so what were you whinging about anyway? Take your flat cap and your rattle and shove it up your arse, son. We can’t even be bothered to pretend that we don’t consider you all as juicy, succulent wallets to slake our thirst for bank notes.

None of this is news. We have all known this for a while. But as we exit another international break, one does have to ask where exactly international football sits in this great pantheon of avarice? Globalisation, both corporate and social (if indeed, those twin concepts can be abstracted in this scenario) has reduced interest in the international game as a spectacle for many. Through the Champions League and online streaming, we can see the world’s best from continental leagues as regularly as we like.

Many of us invest a lot of money and a lot of time in following our teams, so our chief interest in the international game has been reduced to a vain hope that our new £42m signing doesn’t go off with a sore knee in a friendly. International football is eating itself in a sense too. Whilst it’s true that the introduction of group stages and the expansion of European competition has given more club sides a busy calendar, the amount of club games played has stayed relatively stable for the last 40 years or so.

Arsenal’s 1970-71 Double Team played 64 games. The Double team of 2001-02 played 60. International friendlies are increasingly swelling the calendar. Lukas Podolski and Sergio Ramos reached 100 caps for their country aged 27. Reaching 100 caps was once considered a rare achievement for an entire career. The dissolution of Yugoslavia and the USSR has also given us more countries, which obviously leads to more games.

However, I don’t believe international football has no place in the modern game. It’s easy, as plump, Premier League reared Arsenal fans, to look at this parochially, particularly those of us that are English. I used to think international football was an inconvenience and an outdated one at that. That was of course, until I went to Brazil for the first time (as chronicled last year) and saw how Seleção is viewed.

In Brazil the international side takes primacy over club football, Brasileirão doesn’t even break for internationals, clubs lose any players called up for Brazil matches and it’s largely accepted. It’s not just Brazil though. Think of a nation like the Ivory Coast who don’t have anything approaching a strong domestic league. Yet they’ve produced players such as the Toure brothers and Didier Drogba. Belgium have built an international side the envy of much of Europe but barely any of its starting line up play in the Belgian league. At the risk of sounding patronising, fans from countries that have birthed and developed these players deserve to see them. The respective F.A.’s deserve to parade them too, as a source of national pride.

Clubs still tolerate giving up their players for international games, even they do so grudgingly, because a) they have a legislative obligation to do so but b) because it’s still considered the right thing to do. International football, conceptually, is supposed to uphold the more Corinthian aspects of the game. It is meant to be untouched by oligarchs and untainted by investment. It’s a sporting competition in the purest sense. I think that’s to be upheld.

The problem is that FIFA is cradling something of an identity crisis. Some rather innocuous comments from Jack Wilshere last week sparked a debate as to what actually makes a player eligible to play for a country. This piece by @kenearlys shows you just what a complex, nuanced debate that actually is. There are no easy answers, but I think FIFA are coming to a crossroads where decisions have to be made.

Currently, we have the rather unique situation of Diego Costa, eligible for both Brazil and Spain. Because neither has a competitive game now before the World Cup, he doesn’t have to choose which of the two, who are both openly courting him, he represents until May. Uniquely, both countries are amongst the favourites and both are in desperate need of a central striker. He can effectively behave like a club player chasing a big money transfer until the summer.

International football needs to be distinct from club football, otherwise its attraction evaporates. The other issue is that it too is becoming an increasingly commercialised pursuit. There is no better symbol for the crossroads international football has reached than FIFA itself. Officially a charity, that behaves as a nefarious corporation. International football has been tangled up with revenue creation for some time now. But I think we’re coming to a tipping point.

Looking again at Brazil’s Seleção, the CBF has used Brazil’s lack of qualifiers for the 2014 World Cup to take the team on a money spinning friendly roadshow. They’ve played in Abu Dhabi, Doha, Boston and Paris since 2012. This week they played South Korea and Zambia in China. As @binhaf pointed out on Twitter, on Tuesday, Brazil played an African team managed by a Frenchman in China. Scolari rested almost all of his first choice XI for the less taxing engagement with Zambia.

Everybody except Neymar of course. As well as being Brazil’s boy wonder with a football, Neymar is one of the most marketed players on the planet. Billboards bearing his face in Brazil are like rats in London. You’re never more than 50 yards away from one. Despite carrying a slight ankle knock and suffering from jetlag, Neymar was wheeled out against Zambia. The Chinese didn’t pay the CBF lots of money for a friendly to see Hulk starting upfront. Neymar is the ten pound note in the CBF’s thong.

This was fine when he was at Santos because they were in the thrall of the CBF and rather knew their place as a junior concern to Seleção. Now he’s Barcelona’s £50m investment. One can’t imagine that Barcelona will be too enamoured with their big money signing and fresh marketable face tiring his limbs in Beijing for 168 minutes worth of international friendly over four days. Barca is one of the biggest and therefore noisiest (and most pious) clubs on earth. They are unlikely to bow to the CBF’s supremacy quite as readily. These are rich boys fighting over expensive toys.

International football is in danger of going toe to toe with club football in the commercial arena. It’s a sordid battle you suspect it can’t win, as Iain Macintosh concludes in this brilliant piece. Interest in club football is far greater and clubs pay the players, which is the bottom line. I’m not holding club football up as an arbiter of moral supremacy here, because its hands aren’t clean enough to accuse the international federations of greed.

However, club football has already cornered that market. It has the army of public interest at its back and the wind of investment beneath its wings. International football’s trump card is that it’s somehow separate from this relentless ornamentation. The qualification issue is a thorny one but one that needs addressing with clarity I think. There is still a place for international football, but it strikes me that it needs to decide what it is and what it wants, or else it risks dissolution."
Thought this was brilliant by Tim Stillman on Arseblog.

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Re: Arsenal Internationals

Post by Jonathan Prendergast on Fri Oct 18, 2013 10:14 am

I have a lot of time for International Football.

That's a good point that outside the big leagues, international football gives countries a rare chance to see their best players live. Like Belgium, Ivory Coast, and here in Australia.

Also, when it comes to tactics and style, clubs have have followed each other to the point that they are all quite close and similar. It is great at the World Cup, seeing Italy vs Spain, and Germany vs Brazil. Very striking different styles of play, reflecting their junior development and background.

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Post by Mike York on Mon Nov 11, 2013 11:06 pm

Mesut Ozil and Per Mertesacker will not be flying out to join the German squad, not yet at least.

Manager Jogi Loew has confirmed both players have been advised on medical grounds to remain in London, suffering from flu-like symptoms.

He told Bild: "From the medical side, it was said that it would be bad if they have to fly."

Germany travel to Italy for an international friendly on Friday, before facing England at Wembley next Tuesday.

It may be far more convenient for the Arsenal pair to skip the Italy friendly and stay in London for the game against Roy Hodgson's Three Lions.

Low did not elaborate on his long-term plans for the pair, which could hint it could be a day-to-day decision. He clearly wanted both players to join up with the squad, but had been told they could not.

Mertesacker missed Arsenal's match with Manchester United with illness, while Ozil did play. However he was disappointing, and the explanation that he was ill, might just be a key reason why.

http://hereisthecity.com/en-gb/2013/11/11/ill-mesut-ozil-will-stay-with-arsenal-for-now-jogi-low/

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