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Post by Jonathan Prendergast Sun Dec 01, 2013 1:35 am

Cardiff City Stadium
Kick-off: 15.00 GMT
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Post by Jonathan Prendergast Sun Dec 01, 2013 1:36 am

Line Ups:

Arsenal: Szczesny, Sagna, Mertesacker, Koscielny, Gibbs, Arteta, Wilshere, Ramsey, Ozil, Cazorla, Giroud
Subs: Fabianski, Vermaelen, Monreal, Rosicky, Flamini, Walcott, Gnabry

Cardiff: Marshall, Taylor, Caulker, Turner, Whittingham, Medel, Campbell, Kim, Mutch, Cowie, Theophile-Catherine.
Subs: Lewis; Hudson, Cornelius, Odemwingie, Noone, Gunnarsson, Bellamy.
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Post by Jonathan Prendergast Sun Dec 01, 2013 1:39 am

I get the impression adjusts the tacts (Arteta & Flamini or 1 only) on whether the opposition plays through the wings, with a strong centre forward (for headers), or plays through the middle.

If they play through the middle, he includes both Flamini and Arteta. This worked brilliantly against Napoli.

By only choosing Arteta for this game, I think Wenger expects Cardiff to use the wings.
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Post by John Foxall Sun Dec 01, 2013 1:49 am

Or it might have something to do with shirt-gate... Pfff...

Everyone uses the wings, it's the Premier League.

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Post by Prateek Mishra Sun Dec 01, 2013 2:02 am

Any links to the game?

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Post by kique.canto Sun Dec 01, 2013 2:06 am

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Post by Prateek Mishra Sun Dec 01, 2013 2:06 am

Thanks, mate!

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Post by kique.canto Sun Dec 01, 2013 2:12 am

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Post by Jonathan Prendergast Sun Dec 01, 2013 2:13 am

John Foxall wrote:Or it might have something to do with shirt-gate... Pfff...

Everyone uses the wings, it's the Premier League.
Napoli aren't in the Premier League.
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Post by John Foxall Sun Dec 01, 2013 2:17 am

Jonathan Prendergast wrote:
John Foxall wrote:Or it might have something to do with shirt-gate... Pfff...

Everyone uses the wings, it's the Premier League.
Napoli aren't in the Premier League.
Explain please.

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Post by John Foxall Sun Dec 01, 2013 2:23 am

Excellent play so far. Cardiff aren't really pressing us but their defensive block isn't looking impenetrable at the moment. Fingers crossed that our pressure will tell soon.

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Post by Jonathan Prendergast Sun Dec 01, 2013 2:27 am

I think after the linesman and referee would have consulted, they would have called it offside.

No excuse for Giroud. Suarez would never stop assuming a whistle. Strikers gotta be cut throat and hungry.
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Post by Jonathan Prendergast Sun Dec 01, 2013 2:28 am

What a goal!
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Post by Jonathan Prendergast Sun Dec 01, 2013 2:54 am

Cardiff have been lively, but unable to maintain too much pressure.

Mertesacker has made some great interceptions, one straight after copping a big knock to the side of the head.
Koscielny doing well.
Gibbs getting forward, growing into the game with more quality play.
Arteta needs to protect more when they are on the break.

For the first 30 minutes, I thought more needed to get into the box when we are attacking. But they started doing it in the final 15 minutes.

Ozil quality as always.
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Post by John Foxall Sun Dec 01, 2013 3:42 am

Shame at this stage of the game to have no pace on the counter-attack.

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Post by Jonathan Prendergast Sun Dec 01, 2013 3:47 am

'What's he doing up there?'

Great goal Flamini and beautiful assist from Ozil.
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Post by Jonathan Prendergast Sun Dec 01, 2013 3:47 am

John Foxall wrote:Shame at this stage of the game to have no pace on the counter-attack.
Was thinking the same thing. A lot of the balls Giroud was receiving would have suited Walcott more than Giroud. 1 on 1 and on the break.
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Post by John Foxall Sun Dec 01, 2013 3:51 am

Jonathan Prendergast wrote:
John Foxall wrote:Shame at this stage of the game to have no pace on the counter-attack.
Was thinking the same thing. A lot of the balls Giroud was receiving would have suited Walcott more than Giroud. 1 on 1 and on the break.
Never mind. All wrapped up now. We are so composed and confident in our ability at the moment, glad to see we could add the second to finish it off.

Flamini did get a few goals around 2006-2008 so good to see it again.

Given how everything depends on Giroud, we still need to strengthen. Players like Remy or Benteke would be perfect. Pace!

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Post by Jonathan Prendergast Sun Dec 01, 2013 3:58 am

Giroud looked a bit tired, and less clinical with his touches compared to start of the season. We definitely could do with another striker, unless Podolski proves himself up there. Benteke would be great.

Top game by SZCZ. A top save at 1-0, and very safe hands when tested a few times.

I felt the other players didn't support Ozil in build up play with matching his quality. Need Santi to get back into form.

I can understand Wenger sticking with Arteta as he has been excellent, and sets the standard for professionalism in the squad, but Flamini is simply better.
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Post by John Foxall Sun Dec 01, 2013 4:16 am

Wenger has been commited to 4-3-3 with one up top since about 2009.

The problem imo, is that Podolski can't play the role up top on his own like Giroud can. Needless to say Walcott would also be useless in that position, no matter how highly he rates himself. Neither can really do much with back-to-goal against strong defenders. Giroud could do with a bit more pace and doesn't always take the right option but right now the team owes him a lot. He's playing the role as well as he possibly can. Luckily we're not dependent on his goals, because as a goal threat he's fairly inconsistent, even if 7 in the league is pretty respectable.

They might not like playing as the wide player in the front three, but that's the only place either will play. Benteke would be a superb addition to the squad. I'm a little worried that if we don't strengthen we might get one key injury and fade, just like in 07/08.

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Post by Vanig Bostanian Sun Dec 01, 2013 5:15 am

Jonathan Prendergast wrote:Giroud looked a bit tired, and less clinical with his touches compared to start of the season. We definitely could do with another striker, unless Podolski proves himself up there. Benteke would be great.

Top game by SZCZ. A top save at 1-0, and very safe hands when tested a few times.

I felt the other players didn't support Ozil in build up play with matching his quality. Need Santi to get back into form.

I can understand Wenger sticking with Arteta as he has been excellent, and sets the standard for professionalism in the squad, but Flamini is simply better.
Can't agree that Flamini is better than Arteta right now. Ever since the Liverpool game, Arteta has been excellent (and better than Flamini).

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Post by Subrat Koirala Sun Dec 01, 2013 5:38 am

Amazing team performance! Giroud was excellent despite having played so many consecutive games and his strange football moments video thing today. The one where he set up Ramsey was very good. Ozil, what can you say. Still adapting to the physicality of the league but that doesn't affect him when he has space or space to play the pass into. Arteta has been rock solid as Vanig mentioned. Not sure how long if we can play with the same vein all season, but hey, teams have done it before and specifically a few Arsene Wenger teams. 7 points clear while the night lasts !
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Post by Vanig Bostanian Sun Dec 01, 2013 5:47 am

Half an hour after writing my first post, I noticed how much of a joy it is to debate over who between two very good players is playing better, same applies for Per and Laurent.

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Post by Subrat Koirala Sun Dec 01, 2013 5:56 am

And the likes of Rosicky, Flamini to call from the bench who almost always perform. I never thought a single signing, no matter how big could turn us from top 4 certainties to genuine title contenders. The season has been absolutely great so far!
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Post by Jonathan Prendergast Sun Dec 01, 2013 3:48 pm

Vanig Bostanian wrote:Half an hour after writing my first post, I noticed how much of a joy it is to debate over who between two very good players is playing better, same applies for Per and Laurent.
Over the past few years I have found myself standing up for Arteta when many people do not appreciate what he does. I'm a huge fan. I love the way how he always wants the ball, the quality of his passing, and his general role there.

But Flamini, he takes it to another level.

There were 3 occasions when we gave away fouls when Flamini was one, including where Arteta got booked. On each occasion, Flamini was buzzing around, about to take the ball from the player. The foul in each case wasn't necessary, as he anticipated their move to get past the Arsenal player and was about to strip them of the ball.

Watching Flamini is fun. He shouts, points, moves, passes players on, pushes on to the next player, harasses, passes, encourages. All action and all great.
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