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Re: Summer transfer window 2013

Post by Hisham El Mawan on Sun Apr 07, 2013 1:14 pm

Apparently Dennis Bergkamp and Marc Overmars are working on persuading Christian Eriksen to join us as well. Jovetic and Eriksen signing for us would already make it a fantastic summer.

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Post by Vanig Bostanian on Sun Apr 07, 2013 4:08 pm

Hisham El Mawan wrote:Apparently Dennis Bergkamp and Marc Overmars are working on persuading Christian Eriksen to join us as well. Jovetic and Eriksen signing for us would already make it a fantastic summer.
Given we don't lose one of our best players, that said, we don't have "best players" anymore and I don't see Cazorla, Podolski, or Jack the lad leaving.

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Re: Summer transfer window 2013

Post by Jonathan Prendergast on Sun Apr 07, 2013 6:29 pm

Eriksen is an attacking mid. Not really a position where we are short of quality, but if you get the chance to sign such a player, you have to take it.

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Post by Jenks1981 on Mon Apr 08, 2013 3:55 am

Remy anyone!? He just scored a fine tap in...

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Re: Summer transfer window 2013

Post by Michael Schatzky on Mon Apr 08, 2013 4:56 am

Jenks1981 wrote:Remy anyone!? He just scored a fine tap in...
Ha! Just thinking the same thing. We've been linked with him before , but most likely that was his agent's doing, not ours.
When QPR go down we can step in.
All he does is score goals, wish I got him in my fantasy team a couple of weeks ago....

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Re: Summer transfer window 2013

Post by Kevin C.A. on Mon Apr 08, 2013 6:11 am

eriksen to replace useless arshavin
remy as 3rd striking option; word from a reliable source (gotten a lot right in past) on twitter says we are in advanced talks for lewandowski. not sure what that means for jovetic. I'd rather the pole personally.
while we are at QPR, take cesar to offer Szczesny competition

and as an aside; it we had a choice of one or the other (fellaini and gotze), who would u rather have?

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Re: Summer transfer window 2013

Post by Mike York on Mon Apr 08, 2013 10:25 pm

According to a very brief report on Dutch website Ad.nl, Arsenal’s 19-year-old midfielder Kyle Ebecilio is attracting interest from both PSV Eindhoven and FC Twente.

Moving to the Gunners from Feyenoord in 2010, the Rotterdam-born Holland youth international was quick making headlines when he was endowed as the Golden Player at the 2011 under-17 European Championship. Nevertheless, despite progressing through the Academy ranks injuries have taken their toll this term restricting him to ten outings spread between the club’s under-21s and NextGen side.

With only three months left on his contract at Arsenal the teenager will be free to move this summer should he not be offered an extension. Speaking about Ebecilio’s future a representative from management company P4P Sports Group has claimed interest not just from teams in his homeland but across the continent.

“There is plenty of interest from the Netherlands, Germany and Belgium. We won’t talk about the names of clubs, but it’s big clubs. Kyle will make a decision this month. ”

As is often the case with the club’s under-21 players a number will likely be moved on this summer. Jeorge Bird, Arseblog News’ youth specialist, claims that those likely to depart include Conor Henderson, Craig Eastmond, James Shea and Sanchez Watt.

http://news.arseblog.com/2013/04/continental-suitors-eye-ebecilio/?utm_source=feedburner.com%2Farseblognews&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+arseblognews+%28Arseblog+News+-+the+Arsenal+news+site%29

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Re: Summer transfer window 2013

Post by Jonathan Prendergast on Wed Apr 10, 2013 9:13 am

Maybe some discussions on some players we may lose (hopefully not).

With Vermaelen being captain, I think we should quickly accept that he will leave. Barcelona?

According to Arseblog, Bayern Munich interested in Koscielny. I think Koscielny is probably my favourite player for Arsenal, so that would be a huge shame.

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Post by Vanig Bostanian on Wed Apr 10, 2013 3:58 pm

Jonathan Prendergast wrote:Maybe some discussions on some players we may lose (hopefully not).

With Vermaelen being captain, I think we should quickly accept that he will leave. Barcelona?

According to Arseblog, Bayern Munich interested in Koscielny. I think Koscielny is probably my favourite player for Arsenal, so that would be a huge shame.
Don't really care about losing Vermaelen as long as we don't lose Koscielny or Mertesacker as well. I love Kos as well, he has a strong character, after getting so much stick in his first season he became a fan favorite, and now after being dropped, he worked his way to being first choice again. You can't dislike such players.

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Re: Summer transfer window 2013

Post by Michael Foster on Wed Apr 10, 2013 5:17 pm

Vanig Bostanian wrote:
Jonathan Prendergast wrote:Maybe some discussions on some players we may lose (hopefully not).

With Vermaelen being captain, I think we should quickly accept that he will leave. Barcelona?

According to Arseblog, Bayern Munich interested in Koscielny. I think Koscielny is probably my favourite player for Arsenal, so that would be a huge shame.
Don't really care about losing Vermaelen as long as we don't lose Koscielny or Mertesacker as well. I love Kos as well, he has a strong character, after getting so much stick in his first season he became a fan favorite, and now after being dropped, he worked his way to being first choice again. You can't dislike such players.


Loosing kos would feel like a monumental kick in the bollocks...the guy has battled hard for this club even through his small fuck ups he has dusted himself down learned from his mistakes and I fully belive he is right up there with some of the best defenders on the planet...he will only get better for us...

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Post by Vanig Bostanian on Wed Apr 10, 2013 7:09 pm

I can say that his dip in form early in the season was mainly due to not having a proper preseason and not having a run of games.

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Re: Summer transfer window 2013

Post by Jenson Pais on Sat Apr 13, 2013 5:27 am

Jonathan Prendergast wrote:Maybe some discussions on some players we may lose (hopefully not).

With Vermaelen being captain, I think we should quickly accept that he will leave. Barcelona?

According to Arseblog, Bayern Munich interested in Koscielny. I think Koscielny is probably my favourite player for Arsenal, so that would be a huge shame.

I can't see us selling Koscielny unless Bayern come with an insane bid. With his best friend Giroud at Arsenal things are looking in our favour. Also Wenger must be tired of selling his polished gems.

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Re: Summer transfer window 2013

Post by John Foxall on Sun Apr 14, 2013 4:46 am

We don't need to even consider it, he's under contract.

As for the Vermaelen to Barcelona rumour, why would they want him? He's not a very good defender. If we did lose him though, it wouldn't be the end of the world. He's been a bit of a disappointment overall. It's hard to get him into a partnership that works, he makes rash decisions and he's just not got a great defender's CV. And we let Man City get Kompany for a small fee. It's not like better defenders aren't out there.

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Re: Summer transfer window 2013

Post by Jason Morrison on Tue Apr 23, 2013 7:42 pm

BvB hace confirmed that Goetze will be leaving them to join Bayern this summer via their official Facebook page. Big big shock move, but then again Bayern have their claws in every major player in Germany.

So much for us signing him, not that it ever was an actual possibility, but we did try to get him in the past. Would have been a wonderful signing for us.

In the meantime, Bayern will have a monster of a midfield next season, as for BvB, they seeming to tend to us now, not being able to keep their best players and selling to their biggest rivals.

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Re: Summer transfer window 2013

Post by Alex Hadjicharalampous on Tue Apr 23, 2013 8:47 pm

What a complete farce. Football is becoming increasingly more pointless and predictable every season (at least in regards to the top leagues, here in Cyprus the league is far more interesting as far as competition is concerned, even if it is rather shite).

Barcelona, United and Bayern are running away with their respective league titles and signing all the best players from their rivals and whatnot. What's the point in watching this rubbish any more? There's no competition, no nothing.

What a complete fucking twat Gotze is by the way. Dortmund put all that effort into him, are an extremely good side with so much potential, why leave? It's not as if they're not competitive, and I'm pretty sure his wages are ridiculous. Fuck football.

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Post by Mario on Tue Apr 23, 2013 9:43 pm

We will see a European Super League sooner rather than later, imo. Competition domestically is eroding no matter how desperately the sporting media try to sell us otherwise, the bigger are getting better and there's no way anyone can catch up unless a billionaire pumps money in. I don't watch as much football as I used to. (I still watch too much but the point stands).

We could predict the league winners for the next 5 seasons for the major European leagues:

Bayern, PSG, Man Utd (City and Chelsea will be back due to their billions), Barcelona, Real, Juventus, Milan.

Celtic and Olympiakos for the shitter leagues.

Now obviously most of those clubs were always successful and always the richest in their country but the gap is getting even wider. The current third placed teams in most of those leagues haven't even competed for the title at any point during the season. We're as close to West Ham as we are to Man Utd and have been all season (at one point the same distance points wise to QPR as to Utd).

And ok in Germany for example we have had recent winners of the Bundesliga whose name isn't Bayern, Dortmund for example winning the last two. But whenever Bayern want they flex their muscles and voila, champions again. I just don't see any long term benefits to the overall health of the game at this rate. In Spain, the third best team makes less money than the 20th in England from tv, it is completely unsustainable and will just see the league further deteriorate in competitiveness (not that we can complain, we have bagged Cazorla and Monreal at good prices, hopefully Isco will next).

FFP will also strengthen the super-clubs because financially no one is close to Bayern, United, Real, Barcelona. Commercially they are blowing everyone out of the water. It will help us to an extent ofc but I do think more needs to be done. I don't see how a salary cap could work in football, in America they only have 1 major league in that country for it to work, but something of the sort.

Meh.

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Post by John Foxall on Tue Apr 23, 2013 11:47 pm

Yep, this is why the Bundesliga will not become a more competitive league which attracts more media attention abroad. Fantastic fans of course, but Bayern have always hoovered up the best players at the clubs below them which prevents any interest from developing. Following Leverkusen's success in 01/02, they bought up Ballack, Ze Roberto and Lucio.

From an outsider's p.o.v it's a disappointment but Bayern's desire to dominate the league and try to succeed in Europe far outweigh any beneficial effect that the Bundesliga's success in Europe might have. Much has been made of the way that Dortmund's tactical superiority forced them to improve tactically themselves.

If you haven't got the financial muscle to compete, it's not a good idea to try to force success - see Dortmund almost falling out of existence, Leeds, Deportivo etc.

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Post by Jonathan Prendergast on Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:07 pm

I shouldn't be surprised in modern day football, but I am very surprised to hear of Goetze to Bayern. It's sad.

I don't think he can be blamed. He doesn't have to buy into the rivalry, particularly if he has some connection with Munich. That is for the fans. But you would think he could meet his ambitions at Borussia Dortmund.

I am sure Bayern sold him the vision of starting a dynasty now that Pep is on board and the team is strong.

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Post by John Foxall on Wed Apr 24, 2013 10:43 pm

I'm sure Bayern offered him much higher wages too! Needless to say any notion of loyalty or debt to Dortmund was set aside in order to move to Bayern.

Of course it's a shame, but it achieves the pleasing double whamy for Bayern of strengthening themselves by weakening an opponent.


In other more relevant news to us, how good was Javi Martinez last night? It makes the lack of appropriate recruitment in that area since 2008 even more mystifying. We've had to make do with players who are frankly not good enough (Denilson), not disciplined or naturally inclined to play the role (Song) or honest but makeshift (Arteta).

This is one of the reasons why it is patently obvious we aren't going to win anything soon without a change of manager. We need a strong spine and it's simply not acceptable to go from Gilberto to Denilson, Song and Arteta.

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Post by Jonathan Prendergast on Thu Apr 25, 2013 10:56 am

I think Arteta is a brilliant player there and should be captain.

Hopefully he has a couple more years there left in him.

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Post by John Foxall on Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:08 pm

Whatever he is, he isn't brilliant in the role.

Our core is still too soft, it would be a start to give our centre-backs way more protection. When you see the wonderful athletes on display last night and Tuesday night, I think it's obvious what we are missing. Wenger disagrees, but then again we're treading water, incapable of improving.

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Re: Summer transfer window 2013

Post by Mike York on Thu Apr 25, 2013 10:21 pm

Torn over this one. I have always thought a midfield needs a proper enforcer and still do. But Arteta has been amazing for us since he has joined. Earlier in the season he lead the major euro leagues in passing attempts and had a 94% completion rate etc and it has been pointed out how when teams stop Arteta playing Arsenal suffer. And whilst he isn't a proper enforcer his tackling is still admirable. I remember that in November he was 3rd in the Premier League for tackles per game. Not sure how/if the stats have changed since though.

But the defence probably does need more protection. We have looked better recently with Ramsey playing alongside Arteta, tirelessly harassing the oppositions midfield and getting stuck in, allowing Arteta to concentrate more of finding space and passing. I'd like to see an all-out defensive midfield bought in but I don't know if I want it to be in place of Arteta.

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Post by John Foxall on Thu Apr 25, 2013 10:43 pm

Yes well the fact that he generally limits himself to really simple passes explains that, absolutely no penetration at all from his position. It's not a question of having an enforcer, just someone with the physicality of a Martinez as well as his defensive quality. I thought we looked at our most vulnerable this season when Wenger tried to have a midfield three of Arteta, Wilshere and Cazorla. It was just a mess, had too little discipline and too little defensive quality. If you have a strong holding player as well as Arteta then you need really really cutting forward players, a la Real Madrid. In the long run I don't see why we need to rely on Arteta with Ramsey coming through to replace him. Ramsey is our most mobile and energetic player, creating pressure to provoke mistakes is something we are crap at and seemingly not something Wenger is much interested in, yet it seems to come naturally to Ramsey, a valuable quality.

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Post by Jonathan Prendergast on Fri Apr 26, 2013 10:21 am

Arteta's role and passing is for circulation for the team. To keep possession, and allow other players to make plays and key passes. I don't think the fact that his passes are short and simple is a negative, and watching him he often gets the ball under pressure and releases others.

I agree that a Ramsey/Diaby type may be better with Arteta that Wilshere and Cazorla if they are more attacking.

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Re: Summer transfer window 2013

Post by Meshaal on Sat Apr 27, 2013 6:11 pm

Being heavily linked with Jovetic, Fazio and Adler.

Would love for us to sign Hummels or Howedes but we all know what we will end up with Razz

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