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Post by Mario on Tue Apr 10, 2012 9:22 pm

I think it's been obvious for a few years now that Vela would be better off in La Liga. The language, the style of football, the culture; just makes sense. He has never looked suited to Premiership football. Home Carling Cup ties against lesser opposition, yeah, looked a world beater. But he's never make any sort of case that he deserves to play in the league and his reported attitude hasn't helped.

Here's hoping he scores more goals and his transfer fee keeps on rising, then add a future sell-on clause, because he will keep getting better, and make sure we make a nice profit on him.

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Post by Jenks1981 on Tue Apr 10, 2012 9:49 pm

Thats optimistic I like it, I reckon we would only get 2 million for him? Sociedad don't have fortunes do they? So they sell on clauses are a good idea.

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Post by Mario on Tue Apr 10, 2012 9:56 pm

No idea where I read it but I think I saw 5 million Euros being mentioned a day or two ago. For the amount of goals he has scored, Mexican international and his age I don't think that's too unrealistic to expect.

Who knows, maybe he scores a few more and a bidding war breaks out with other clubs! Maybe that's too much to expect. I don't know about their finances but this article - http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/sam-wallace-spanish-clubs-unpaid-tax-bills-are-a-disgrace--and-a-warning-to-all-7576759.html - says that Sociedad are one of 5 La Liga teams who DON'T owe money to the taxman. But as seen by Atletico Madrid who last summer owed €215m to the Inland Revenue and spent €40m of the €50m they received for Aguero on Falcao, I don't think that means much in Spain.

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Post by Zaid Derweesh on Tue Apr 10, 2012 11:37 pm

5m sounds reasonable. Didn't we pick him up for like 3m or something? Not much of a profit, but that's fine: get him off the books, and add a hefty sell-on clause like you said, and we're set. Maybe some performance-related stuff as well.

I have Vela 12 on the back of one of my favorite Arsenal shirts. It's a shame, frankly.

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Post by Jenks1981 on Tue Apr 10, 2012 11:50 pm

He has the potential still to be a good player I think, I can see what Wenger saw in him definately but he isn't able to adapt to our game in England. Shame about your shirt Zaid.

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Post by Mario on Wed Apr 11, 2012 5:21 am

Eisfeld has just scored on his return to the reserves at Newcastle.

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Post by Sami Rockfeller on Wed Apr 11, 2012 5:38 am

Think Eisfeld will take Benayoun's place in the squad next year. He's performed well whenever he's played for the reserves and Wenger did say he will play a bigger part next season.
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Post by Alex Hadjicharalampous on Wed Apr 11, 2012 5:49 am

Sami Rockfeller wrote:Think Eisfeld will take Benayoun's place in the squad next year. He's performed well whenever he's played for the reserves and Wenger did say he will play a bigger part next season.

I still think this was a bizarre signing. He's going to have to show some exceptional qualities if he wants to get anywhere near our first team and he hasn't got any experience whatsoever of league football as far as I know.
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Post by Mario on Wed Apr 11, 2012 5:56 am

Sami Rockfeller wrote:He's performed well whenever he's played for the reserves and Wenger did say he will play a bigger part next season.

This is only his 2nd game for the reserves, he's only played 90 minutes of football so far!

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Post by Sami Rockfeller on Wed Apr 11, 2012 6:04 am

Mario Leontiou wrote:
Sami Rockfeller wrote:He's performed well whenever he's played for the reserves and Wenger did say he will play a bigger part next season.

This is only his 2nd game for the reserves, he's only played 90 minutes of football so far!

I know but from what I've heard and read he seems to have done really well on both occasions. I think him and Ozyakup are going to play some part in the next campaign, atleast more than Park this season.
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Post by Mario on Wed Apr 11, 2012 6:15 am

Carlos Vela has just put Sociedad 1-0 up against Real Betis. 55mins gone.

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Post by Vanig Bostanian on Wed Apr 11, 2012 6:17 am

Vela scored yet another goal.

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Post by Chris Chan on Fri Apr 13, 2012 8:44 am


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Post by Chris Chan on Mon Apr 16, 2012 4:15 am

Big result in France: lowly Lorient beat table topping Montpellier 2-1. #AFC's Joel Campbell scored the winner on his return.

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Post by Samritpal Singh on Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:35 am

Chris Chan wrote:Big result in France: lowly Lorient beat table topping Montpellier 2-1. #AFC's Joel Campbell scored the winner on his return.

Haha Campbell's goal might have just lost Montpellier the title.
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Post by eyal.peer on Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:55 am

Not sure you want to put him and Giroud/Belhanda in the same team... Wink
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Post by Chris Chan on Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:06 am

Is Campbell eligible for a work permit next season?

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Post by Subrat Koirala on Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:21 am

Chris Chan wrote:Is Campbell eligible for a work permit next season?
he's been playing in almost every game for costa rica and hence Im highly optimistic he'll be granted a work permit.
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Post by Mario on Mon Apr 16, 2012 11:18 pm

Joel Campbell
Lorient 2-1 Montpellier
Sunday, April 15
Joel Campbell scored the decisive goal in Lorient's shock 2-1 victory against Montpellier on Sunday. The Costa Rica international controlled a lofted pass, beat his marker and curled the ball into the far corner from the edge of the area to set up a victory that has blown the Ligue 1 title race wide open. - http://www.101greatgoals.com/gvideos/golazo-joel-campbell-lorient-v-montpellier/

Andrey Arshavin
Zenit St Petersburg 2-0 CSKA Moscow
Saturday, April 14
Andrey Arshavin scored the second goal in Zenit St Petersburg's comfortable 2-0 win against CSKA Moscow on Saturday. The Russia captain volleyed in from 10 yards in the final minute as Zenit close in on the title. - http://www.101greatgoals.com/gvideos/andrey-arshavin-goal-v-cska-moscow/

Henri Lansbury
West Ham 6-0 Brighton
Saturday, April 14
Henri Lansbury played the full 90 minutes of West Ham's 6-0 victory against Brighton on Saturday.The midfielder played a part in the Hammers' fifth goal as Carlton Cole's shot deflected off Lansbury and flew into the back of the net.

Carlos Vela
Malaga 1-1 Real Sociedad
Sunday, April 15
Carlos Vela played 69 minutes of Real Sociedad's 1-1 draw at Malaga on Sunday, before being substituted.

Pedro Botelho
Levante 1-2 Barcelona
Saturday, April 14
Pedro Botelho played 45 minutes of Levante's 2-1 home defeat to Barcelona before being substituted after picking up a booking.

Vito Mannone
Watford 1-1 Hull
Saturday, April 14
Vito Mannone played the whole of Hull's 1-1 draw with Watford at Vicarage Road on Saturday.

Kyle Bartley
Rangers
Kyle Bartley and Rangers were not in action this weekend.


Chuks Aneke
Preston 1-0 Huddersfield
Saturday, April 14
Chuks Aneke was an unused substitute in Preston's 1-0 victory against play-off hopefuls Huddersfield on Saturday.

Craig Eastmond
Wycombe 2-2 Oldham
Monday, April 9
Craig Eastmond played the full 90 minutes of Wycombe's 2-2 draw with Oldham on Saturday.

Benik Afobe
Southampton 1-3 Reading
Friday, April 13
Benik Afobe played the last 13 minutes of Reading's top-of-the-table clash against Championship rivals Southampton on Friday night after coming on as a substitute.

Nicklas Bendtner
Sunderland 0-0 Wolves
Saturday, April 14
Nicklas Bendtner played the full 90 minutes of Sunderland's goalless draw against Wolves at the Stadium of Light on Saturday.

Samuel Galindo
Gimnastic Tarragona 0-2 Alcorcon
Sunday, April 15
Samuel Galindo was an unused substitute during Gimnastic de Tarragona's 2-0 defeat to Alcorcon on Sunday.

Wellington
Alcoyano 0-1 Guadalajara
Saturday, April 14
Wellington played 29 minutes as a second-half substitute in Alcoyano's 1-0 defeat to Guadalajara on Saturday.

Denilson
Linense 2-1 Sao Paulo
Sunday, April 15
Denilson did not feature in Sao Paulo's 2-1 defeat to Linense on Sunday.

Sanchez Watt
Crawley 1-1 Wimbledon
Saturday, April 14
Sanchez Watt was an unused substitute in Crawley's 1-1 draw with AFC Wimbledon on Saturday.

Sead Hajrovic
Barnet 1-1 Hereford
Saturday, April 14
Sead Hajrovic played 25 minutes of Barnet's 1-1 draw with Hereford at Underhill on Saturday before being substituted.

Ryo
Bolton Wanderers
Ryo and Bolton Wanderers did not have a fixture at the weekend.

Nico Yennaris
Brentford 0-0 Notts County
Saturday, April 14
Nico Yennaris did not feature in Notts County's 0-0 draw at Brentford on Saturday.

Rhys Murphy
Preston 1-0 Huddersfield
Saturday, April 14
Rhys Murphy did not feature in Preston's 1-0 victory against play-off hopefuls Huddersfield on Saturday.

Sean McDermott
Leeds 4-1 Peterborough
Saturday, April 14
Sean McDermott did not feature in Leeds' 4-1 win against Peterborough at Elland Road on Saturday.

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Post by Subrat Koirala on Tue Apr 17, 2012 4:32 am

Great stuff. Thanks for that, Mario.
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Post by Mario on Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:36 pm

Benik Afobe
Reading 1-0 Nottingham Forest
Tuesday, April 17
Benik Afobe was an unused substitute in Reading's 1-0 win over Nottingham Forest as Brian McDermott's side won promotion back to the Premier League at the Madejski Stadium on Tuesday.

Henri Lansbury
Bristol City 1-1 West Ham
Tuesday, April 17
Henri Lansbury played the full 90 minutes of West Ham's 1-1 draw against Bristol City at Ashton Gate on Tuesday. The midfielder hit the bar just after half time but could not help Sam Allardyce's side to victory.

Vito Mannone
Hull 3-1 Barnsley
Tuesday, April 17
Vito Mannone played the full 90 minutes of Hull's 3-1 victory over Barnsley at the KC Stadium on Tuesday night.

Sanchez Watt
Crawley 3-1 Northampton
Tuesday, April 17
Sanchez Watt played five minutes as a second-half substitute in Crawley's 3-1 victory over Northampton at the Broadfield Stadium on Tuesday.

Sean McDermott
Blackpool 1-0 Leeds
Tuesday, April 17
Sean McDermott did not feature in Leeds' 1-0 defeat at Blackpool on Tuesday.

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Post by Christopher Flanagan on Wed Apr 18, 2012 10:12 pm

Bit disappointed Afobe hasn't got more minutes at Reading.
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Post by Mario on Thu Apr 19, 2012 1:42 am

Yeah, same. But their strikers are playing well, Jason Roberts is very influential, and Adam Le Fondre has been a bit of a super sub recently.



This might interest Zaid...


Friendly: Arsenal XI 1 Oman 0 - Match report
By Rob Kelly at London Colney


A goalkeeping error gifted an Arsenal XI a narrow 1-0 victory over Oman’s Olympic hopefuls at London Colney on Wednesday afternoon.

In driving wind and rain, Gavin Hoyte scored the only goal of the game in the 73rd minute. But it owed more to the poor handling of the Oman goalkeeper, who dived on the ball but allowed it to slip under his body and trickle over the line.

The score was a fair reflection of the game though after the hosts dominated against Paul Le Guen’s side and even missed a first-half penalty from Conor Henderson.

It was a useful run-out for the hosts against an Oman side gearing up for their Olympic qualification play-off match against Senegal at the Ricoh Arena on Monday.

Neil Banfield named a strong Arsenal XI line-up with the likes of Carl Jenkinson, Sebastien Squillaci, Abou Diaby, Ju Young Park and Marouane Chamakh all included.

Within five minutes of kick off, the conditions turned nasty as a biting wind was soon accompanied by near torrential rain which lasted for the entire first half.

It made life difficult for the players, but the Gunners did not let it affect them as they made the early running, Oguzhan Ozyakup firing over from the edge of the box in the fifth minute.

Squillaci came close moments later when he met Ozyakup’s corner with a powerful header, but the ball flew inches over the Oman bar.

Banfield’s side were the dominant force and again nearly grabbed the lead in the 18th minute when Henderson latched on to a Thomas Eisfield cross. The cultured midfielder - back after eight months out with a knee injury - cut back inside his marker and curled a shot towards the top corner, but his goalbound effort was well saved.

Eisfield went close just before the half-hour mark with a close-range effort, before the Gunners were handed a golden opportunity to extend their lead from the penalty spot right on half-time.

The spot kick was awarded after Ozyakup was felled in the area following a lightning-fast counter-attack, but Henderson saw his penalty brilliantly palmed away by the jubilant visiting keeper.

The game lost some of its urgency in the second half, but substitute goalkeeper James Shea had to be alert in the 50th minute to beat away a vicious long-range strike.

Finally the deadlock was broken when, in the 73rd minute, Hoyte broke forward from the back and struck a powerful shot at goal. The Oman substitute goalkeeper seemed to have it covered, but the ball squirmed out of his grasp and dropped over the line.

Eisfield had half a chance to extend the Gunners’ advantage soon afterwards when he worked his way into the box, but the Oman keeper partially redeemed himself by snatching the ball off the teenager’s feet.

That was the final chance of a low-key affair as the Arsenal XI comfortably saw out their victory.

Arsenal XI: Martinez (Shea 45), Jenkinson (Neita 60), Squillaci (Hoyte 45), Miquel (Boateng 45), Eisfeld, Ozyakup, Henderson, Diaby (Rees 45), Chamakh (Roberts 45), Park (Ebecilio 45).

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Post by ahrstic on Thu Apr 19, 2012 8:23 pm

"Arsenal sign up for the NextGen Series"

Good! No youth competition is complete without Arsenals academy products. Good addition to youth's game schedule, can't wait next season.

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Post by Samritpal Singh on Thu Apr 19, 2012 9:27 pm

This NextGen Series, is it a league or a cup thing?
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