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Post by Mike York on Tue Aug 21, 2012 10:04 pm

Darren Dein now has no more players to represent at Arsenal

At last, the agent Darren Dein no longer has any influence in the world of Arsenal. It is something that has taken a lot of time to accomplish, and of course we must say from the start that there is no evidence that Arsenal directors have deliberately sought to sell off everyone associated with Dein. We have to say, because of the lack of data, that it could just be a coincidence.

The last two players in Mr Dein’s wardrobe (as it were) were RVP and Alex Song. Both have gone in the matter of a week. Maybe that too is a coincidence.

Now it is not common that I give credit to the right wing xenophobic English paper The Daily Mail, but on 6 March this year they ran the story that Song and RVP would go, and the connection in this departure would be their agent: Mr Dein.

They said in this piece, “Arsenal chief executive Ivan Gazidis and manager Arsene Wenger are convinced the real stumbling block to a deal will be Darren.”

Of course I don’t know if that is true, since I have only met Mr Gazidis once (on the occasion when I suggested putting up the statue of Herbert Chapman – I thought I would drop that one in, in case you missed it last time) and we certainly didn’t talk agents. We talked history.

So, who has been under the Dein umbrella so to speak?

Thierry Henry, (Dein was best man at his wedding)
Emmanuel Adebayor, (although I gather this happened after he moved on from Arsenal)
Gael Clichy
Cesc Fabregas


Here’s another point, the Mail made at that time… “In the past, when the majority of Arsenal’s players were represented and managed by Jerome Anderson’s SEM Group, the star names traditionally remained loyal. ”

They cite Ian Wright, David Rocastle, Tony Adams and Dennis Bergkamp as players who turned down financial incentive to stay with Arsenal.

Now it appear that Mr Dein was able to get very close to the players at Arsenal, even going so far as to travel with the players on Champions League trips.

But of course it would be ludicrous to say that everyone who has left ARsenal for more money was linked to Darren Dein.

Samir Nasri had as his agent Jean-Pierre Bernes, who according to CNN was the “right-hand man to Marseille president Bernard Tapie during France’s biggest football scandal. The pair were found guilty of attempting to fix a Ligue 1 match against Valenciennes in May 1993, in the week before Marseille beat AC Milan in the Champions League final.”

However it is possible that the removal of the influence of Mr Dein might well be very positive for Arsenal. Indeed it is not impossible to imagine a situation in which the club will say, “If you are represented by Dein, we won’t sign you”. Of course I just made that concept up, but it does seem strange that one agent should be so closely involved with Arsenal.

On the other hand one could see some of the things that happened as positive. Mr Dein, it is said, arranged for Thierry Henry to come back to Arsenal as cover last season, and I think most of us enjoyed that.

But could one actually say to an employee, “you must not change agents and have Mr Dein while you are at Arsenal”? I imagine it is not too much of a restraint of trade to put that in a contract, providing it was made abundantly clear to the player upon signing, and not slipped in through the small print.

Maybe that is happening. Maybe the club has gone about setting up a Dein free zone. We’ll never know of course, but it will be interesting to see who the agent is of each new player coming in.

http://blog.emiratesstadium.info/archives/24462

Maybe not the most well written piece but I agree with the general point of it. After how his other clients left Arsenal I am happy that Dein no longer has any big names on the Arsenal roster. I've heard it mentioned in a few places that one of the factors in shipping out Song was to get rid of Dein. Could be false but I wouldn't be shocked if true.
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Post by Michael Foster on Tue Aug 21, 2012 11:03 pm

Here,here to this....

I did here he had a small part to play in the cesc transfer..but that could be purely speculative nonsense...

I will say this though...of all those under his wing...sorry on his pay day...these players he was contracted with all sort after moves with nothing but hostility its by no means doubtfull that he was planting a seed of restless,doubtfull and questionable debates over arsenal football club...not in Wenger nor the board but the whole in general...
Getting the players questioning the let's say 'direction' of the club and 'ambition' is the first step and half way to moving them on giving him the deal best suited for him..he could and undoubtedly question anybody who says this is all lies.....it will all be talk of 'I did best for my player' bollocks...we all know best part of agents are lying greedy son's o bitches and he for me and reading up on past about him falls well if not sits on top of the pile...

The song deal could just have been what it is...

To get rid of this pathetic little man.
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Post by Vanig Bostanian on Wed Aug 22, 2012 7:13 am

Can't really claim that Cesc went for money can we? He took a pay cut as far as I remember.

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Post by Chris Chan on Wed Aug 22, 2012 8:22 am

Van Roy Bostanian wrote:Can't really claim that Cesc went for money can we? He took a pay cut as far as I remember.

Some quarters say RVP did too...

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Post by rea.nolan on Wed Aug 22, 2012 2:14 pm

I can't imagine that RvP is being paid less at Man U than he was at Arse. It's been widely reported that Arsenal intended to make him their highest ever paid footballer, but never did make the offer because he had decided to leave the club without ever entertaining contract extension talks.
What was he on at Arse, £60000 - £90000 / week?
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Post by ralph avedikian on Wed Aug 22, 2012 8:52 pm

The sun (I know..) said that RVP was on something like 170k p/w at man utd. Maybe the number is wrong but surely he didn't take a pay cut the greedy cunt.

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Post by Mike York on Wed Aug 22, 2012 9:20 pm

Most of the figures I've read say RvP is on 200k or 220k a week at Utd. Whatever the figure is there is no way he took a pay cut. The little boy only started screaming out Man Utd to him after they matched his wage demands.
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Post by Michael Foster on Wed Aug 22, 2012 10:31 pm

190-220 seams to be a rough amount everywhere....

I bet the 'little boy' got screamed at when they lost to Everton...hahaha......cunt.
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