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Post by Jonathan Prendergast on Sun Jul 08, 2012 10:35 am

Wesley Wang wrote:Arteta. He's a model of consistency and you get the impression that he's in it for the long haul i.e. not going to move to some other European club as soon as he has a good season. My only concern is that he's not a dominant or vocal figure on the pitch; he just does his job and does it well.

Vermaelen would be an excellent choice but for the points Jonathan made.

Whilst Arteta may not be vocal on the pitch, I get the impression he does lead and he does mentor players.
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Post by Marko Maksimović on Sun Jul 08, 2012 8:55 pm

Vermaelen... He's just signed a long-term deal with us. He's always been in it for the long run, at least he gives off that vibe. Plus, imagine how pissed off you would be if you were vice captain and the captaincy then got passed on to someone else? Plus, I don't buy this he isn't a guaranteed starter. of course he will be. He's had to career threatening injuries, give him a bit. He'll have a full pre season under his belt. Don't underestimate him, he is one heck of a defender.
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Post by Mario on Sun Jul 08, 2012 9:52 pm

Jonathan Prendergast wrote:
Wesley Wang wrote:Arteta. He's a model of consistency and you get the impression that he's in it for the long haul i.e. not going to move to some other European club as soon as he has a good season. My only concern is that he's not a dominant or vocal figure on the pitch; he just does his job and does it well.

Vermaelen would be an excellent choice but for the points Jonathan made.

Whilst Arteta may not be vocal on the pitch, I get the impression he does lead and he does mentor players.


I know for the Norwich game when was injured he spent before the game in the dressing room, went to his box for the game and then came back down at half time. Mertesacker as well I think came back down at half time.

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Post by Jenks1981 on Mon Jul 09, 2012 3:42 am

I think Vermaelen is likely to get it.

Arteta would be a good choice as well.

Beyond that, Sagna maybe, obviously one day Wilshire will be captain for me but its way way too soon.


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Post by Jonathan Prendergast on Mon Jul 09, 2012 10:14 am

Marko Maksimović wrote:Vermaelen... He's just signed a long-term deal with us. He's always been in it for the long run, at least he gives off that vibe. Plus, imagine how pissed off you would be if you were vice captain and the captaincy then got passed on to someone else? Plus, I don't buy this he isn't a guaranteed starter. of course he will be. He's had to career threatening injuries, give him a bit. He'll have a full pre season under his belt. Don't underestimate him, he is one heck of a defender.

I personally think it would be better just to let him concentrate on playing. I agree, this season, he can take his play to another level. But that is better done without the burden or distraction of captaincy.

But who knows. Sometimes becoming captain can help a player improve. It could make him a more thoughtful team player, rather than the testosterone charged crasher and basher that he currently is.
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Post by John Foxall on Mon Jul 09, 2012 11:14 pm

What on Earth does take his play to another level mean?

He's the one centre-back we have whose weaknesses are regularly exploited by the opposition. I like his commitment and ill-advised runs upfield when they work but he shouldn't even be an unquestionable starter based on his time at the club so far.

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Post by Michael Foster on Mon Jul 09, 2012 11:21 pm

I think he means that tv will up his game even more...

That said I think the ol verminator could do well as captain...very vocal,fairly organized,strong presence....and like said the vice captain being overlooked would surly put a dent in his game season coming....

He gets my vote....
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Post by Mike York on Mon Jul 09, 2012 11:22 pm

Arteta would be a good choice but I think Vermaelen will take the armband and rightly so. It'd be a bit insulting to have him as VC then not have him as captain.

I am not a fan of the captains who lead not vocally but through how they play (Henry, Cesc etc arguably Van Persie too), I want a captain like Tony Adams again. One who will give joggers a bollocking, and go crazy if someone makes an obvious mistake, and Vermaelen is more likely to do that than Arteta. He was captain of Ajax and Belgium both from a young age too so he knows what the job is about.

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Post by John Foxall on Mon Jul 09, 2012 11:24 pm

I think he means that tv will up his game even more...

Surely he needs to work on organisation and understanding with the other defenders, not other adrenaline-associated adjectives.

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I am not a fan of the captains who lead not vocally but through how they play (Henry, Cesc etc arguably Van Persie too), I want a captain like Tony Adams again. One who will give joggers a bollocking, and go crazy if someone makes an obvious mistake, and Vermaelen is more likely to do that than Arteta. He was captain of Ajax and Belgium both from a young age too so he knows what the job is about.

Adams belongs to another era.

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Post by Michael Foster on Mon Jul 09, 2012 11:25 pm

Oh so agreed mike...never really understood why anybody has leaders from the front..

Looking forward to seeing verminator dish out a screaming session to say diaby lol
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Post by Mike York on Mon Jul 09, 2012 11:27 pm

[quote="John Foxall"]
Adams belongs to another era.

True. Doesn't mean people cannot be influenced by him though.
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Post by Michael Foster on Mon Jul 09, 2012 11:28 pm

John Foxall wrote:
I think he means that tv will up his game even more...

Surely he needs to work on organisation and understanding with the other defenders, not other adrenaline-associated adjectives.

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I am not a fan of the captains who lead not vocally but through how they play (Henry, Cesc etc arguably Van Persie too), I want a captain like Tony Adams again. One who will give joggers a bollocking, and go crazy if someone makes an obvious mistake, and Vermaelen is more likely to do that than Arteta. He was captain of Ajax and Belgium both from a young age too so he knows what the job is about.

Adams belongs to another era.

If he is thinking the same as I was...it's probably 99% sure it's what he ment...work as a unit...gain more experience and develope with the back line we have....
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Post by Michael Foster on Mon Jul 09, 2012 11:29 pm

[quote="Mike York"]
John Foxall wrote:
Adams belongs to another era.

True. Doesn't mean people cannot be influenced by him though.


As people are still by the pele's and so on etc etc....
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Post by Vanig Bostanian on Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:29 am

I'd give it to Arteta, but I'm sure it will be the Verminator.

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Post by Jonathan Prendergast on Fri Aug 17, 2012 8:23 pm

Vermaelen to be captain.

In the end, whilst I thought against it, I am happy with that.
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Post by Marko Maksimović on Fri Aug 17, 2012 9:10 pm

I'm happy with that too. Just hope he doesn't jump ship after a season or two.
Tbh I've always preferred captains being in more defensive positions ie defence or midfield. It gives me the impression that they're more involved or should I say at the "heart" of the team. Strikers and more offensive players can seem detached from the rest of the side, especially on an off day or when they don't get the service they need.
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Post by Jason Morrison on Fri Aug 17, 2012 10:12 pm

I'm happy with vermaelen as captain, I thinl it will really focus hom more on his defensive duties, and we all know how good he can be when he commits to defending. Last season we didnt have that cazorla type creativity on the team, which resulted in the likes of song and verms pushing forward to the detriment of our defence. Thats not even mentioning the discontinuity on our defence last year, read sonewhere thay the dirst time our team played the same defence in back to back games last season was in the 17th game! Think we'll be much stronger defensively this year.
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Post by Mike York on Fri Aug 17, 2012 10:44 pm

I'm happy with TV as captain. Has done the job for other teams and is not afraid to give someone a bollocking if needs be. I guess this means the two starting CB's in Wenger's mind is Kos/TV, with Per on the bench.
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Post by Steve Dawson on Fri Aug 17, 2012 11:05 pm

Arteta as Vice-Cap as well. Happy with that as well.

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Post by Michael Foster on Sat Aug 18, 2012 2:09 am

Good shout on both decisions...I had already made my point on it so won't waste all you guys time on reading it again.....

About time we had a captain who will bollock people....
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Post by Zaid Derweesh on Sat Aug 18, 2012 2:50 am

RVP bollocked people... even decked it out with Ramsey on the dressing room floor after man City at home apparently...

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Post by Michael Foster on Sat Aug 18, 2012 3:03 am

Admittedly he did scrap it out with a few....but could you take it seriously from robin...lol

I am expecting tv to do very well as captain......lead the way fella...show us the silverware!!!

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Post by Chris Chan on Sat Aug 18, 2012 4:10 am

Arsenal move on. Vermaelen first captain in ages chosen for leadership rather than to make him stay.

young guns blog wrote this, sums it up pretty well for me

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Post by Jonathan Prendergast on Sat Aug 18, 2012 8:57 am

Thankfully he recently signed a contract extension too.
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