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Re: The Van Persie Thread

Post by Jonathan Prendergast on Mon May 28, 2012 7:29 pm

Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger remains confident Robin van Persie will stay.

Wenger is discussing a new contract with the Dutchman.

Speaking to US TV channel Fox Soccer, Wenger said: "I am confident you will see Robin van Persie in the Premier League and I am very confident you will see him in red and white.

"When you compare the Van Persie who arrived - from Feyenoord - to the player he has become today, it is remarkable."

http://www.tribalfootball.com/articles/arsenal-boss-wenger-very-confident-van-persie-stay-3201191

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Re: The Van Persie Thread

Post by Mike York on Mon May 28, 2012 9:13 pm

Jonathan Prendergast wrote:Speaking to US TV channel Fox Soccer, Wenger said: "I am confident you will see Robin van Persie in the Premier League and I am very confident you will see him in red and white.

Hope he means us and not Man Utd Neutral

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Re: The Van Persie Thread

Post by Jonathan Prendergast on Tue May 29, 2012 8:05 am

Mike York wrote:
Jonathan Prendergast wrote:Speaking to US TV channel Fox Soccer, Wenger said: "I am confident you will see Robin van Persie in the Premier League and I am very confident you will see him in red and white.

Hope he means us and not Man Utd Neutral

I think he is just bored of saying the same thing over and over, so he is mixing it up a bit.

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Re: The Van Persie Thread

Post by Zaid Derweesh on Tue May 29, 2012 12:30 pm

Thinly veiled request for loyalty:

1) we made you what you are now
2) we persevered through your injuries, we were patient, you owe us

Interesting.

Also, is Giroud the type of player we need? Is he skillful at all, or is he another Chamakh? Speaking of Chamakh, I wonder if we could trade Giroud + 5m for Park and Chamakh, would solve two problems at once.

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Re: The Van Persie Thread

Post by vyom.chaudhary on Tue May 29, 2012 6:53 pm

@BFairthorne: This is all second hand as I don't know Darren Dein, but for first time hearing from agent close to Arsène that RVP is leaving. #arsenal

To be clear this is second hand, I am not 100% on it like I am with M'Vila.

from Ben Fairthorne

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Re: The Van Persie Thread

Post by Jonathan Prendergast on Tue May 29, 2012 6:56 pm

Worrying news.

ESPN are quoting his wife as wanting him to stay as new news, but it is just the same quotes from a month or so ago, about how we are a goood club as we have no debts.

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Re: The Van Persie Thread

Post by Sami Rockfeller on Tue May 29, 2012 7:30 pm

I could care less just wish we buy someone as skilled if not more if he does leave.

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Re: The Van Persie Thread

Post by Jenks1981 on Tue May 29, 2012 10:16 pm

I don't think he is leaving but if he does, Podolski is the only replacement we are likely to sign.

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Re: The Van Persie Thread

Post by Ashraf Peeran on Tue May 29, 2012 10:29 pm

"Arsenal showed faith in Robin when he was going through a lean time, so we should not repay them by thinking about other clubs. Our home life and our children are happy in London." - Robin van Persie's wife

That is the most recent quote, as of today. Source is the "Quote of the day" section of eurosport's blogger; Early Doors.

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Re: The Van Persie Thread

Post by Sami Rockfeller on Wed May 30, 2012 5:21 am

Ashraf Peeran wrote:"Arsenal showed faith in Robin when he was going through a lean time, so we should not repay them by thinking about other clubs. Our home life and our children are happy in London." - Robin van Persie's wife

That is the most recent quote, as of today. Source is the "Quote of the day" section of eurosport's blogger; Early Doors.

Those quotes have been taken from an old interview. Mrs RVP had also tweeted something like this earlier but since, the quote has been deleted.

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Re: The Van Persie Thread

Post by vyom.chaudhary on Wed Jun 20, 2012 10:36 pm

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/7828912/Wenger-Van-Persie-will-stay

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Re: The Van Persie Thread

Post by Jonathan Prendergast on Wed Jun 20, 2012 11:56 pm

Well, it sounds like Wenger has no reason to think that Van Persie will leave.

Until Van Persie tells him he will leave.

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Re: The Van Persie Thread

Post by Greg Waters on Wed Jun 27, 2012 12:35 am

While I'm in no way confident RVP will stay, I am finding it kind of difficult to think of a club that he'd actually want to leave us for.

Italy... Serie A isn't a step up, even if he'd have a better chance at winning trophies- can't see Juve and it doesn't sound like AC/Inter are interested.

Spain- Barca or Real, but I doubt Barca could afford him, not to mention that he isn't really their style (i.e. not a midfielder!). Similarly with real madrid- can't really see him playing there because of his belief of how the game should be played, and I get the impression they really want to hang on to Higuain, which would be impossible if they brought RvP in.

Which leaves the English clubs. He wouldn't go to Man City, surely?! There and Barca are the only two options I can really see happening, neither particularly likely.

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Re: The Van Persie Thread

Post by Jonathan Prendergast on Wed Jun 27, 2012 8:39 am

Just a reminder, that there are 3 options:
- He extends his contract
- He transfers elsewhere
- He continues on this season without immediately signing a new contract

I think in this case, Wenger is willing to keep him without signing a new contract. That could mean giving up 35m pounds, but I have a feeling Wenger will do it.

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Re: The Van Persie Thread

Post by vyom.chaudhary on Thu Jun 28, 2012 1:15 am

David Ornstein ‏@bbcsport_david
Van Persie to resume talks with Arsenal when back from Caribbean break. He's keen to stay, with or without new contract. Ball in #afc court.
cheers

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Re: The Van Persie Thread

Post by ahrstic on Fri Jun 29, 2012 6:11 am

I know RVP is our star, our talisman... But exactly for those reason I think this situation is not acceptable for Arsenal. He is practically holding his club for a ransom. A club where he is an icon and captain! Theres only one way to sort this out.

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Re: The Van Persie Thread

Post by Marko Maksimović on Fri Jun 29, 2012 8:13 am

How is he holding his club ransom?

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Re: The Van Persie Thread

Post by kdunn on Fri Jun 29, 2012 8:16 am

ahrstic wrote:I know RVP is our star, our talisman... But exactly for those reason I think this situation is not acceptable for Arsenal. He is practically holding his club for a ransom. A club where he is an icon and captain! Theres only one way to sort this out.

what? Make sense. Please explain why you take offense to Vps behavior.

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Re: The Van Persie Thread

Post by John Foxall on Fri Jun 29, 2012 8:27 am

He's not holding the club to ransom. A contract commits him to a certain number of years and we are entitled to hold him to it. I think we should, he'll be almost 30 by next summer.

Of course we can't let the player control the situation, but by already signing two forwards this summer (something we should have done last year or even the summer before - the summer of Chamakhgate) we are doing much better.

Of course if a player tries to force his way out with 2/3 years on his contract then that's different. Fabregas has to be the exception not the rule.

As for Nasri, we don't miss him. The UK media is so incredibly shit. They were so determined to stir shit and sell papers that they declared that our two best players had left. Not even a dumb martian would claim that Nasri is better than RvP. Never mind the England team being shit, the English media is even more disgracefully dumb.

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Re: The Van Persie Thread

Post by Jonathan Prendergast on Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:16 am

I think players running down their contracts is quite a recent phenomenon. Many players sign extensions, knowing they may leave in a year or 2, but happy to extend so their club get's decent compensation for losing the player.

I think the agents are behind it, as it increases negotiation power over time, and if you do run out your contract, the player can take what would have been a big transfer fee as a signing on bonus or very high wages. With the agent getting their cut.

We can't comment on Van Persie yet, as we don't know what his plan is. As Bergkamp suggested, he may be using this power to ensure good players signed and the club moves in the right direction. But he may also be doing it for a big future payday for him and his agent. I think the former is more likely. For every week he delays signing a new contract, he misses out on an increased wage however.

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Re: The Van Persie Thread

Post by Steve Dawson on Mon Jul 02, 2012 9:49 pm

Reports are saying that we've turned down a bid from Juventus for RVP. For £8m!!!! Are they having an actual laugh?!?!

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Re: The Van Persie Thread

Post by Michael Foster on Tue Jul 03, 2012 2:42 am

ahrstic wrote:I know RVP is our star, our talisman... But exactly for those reason I think this situation is not acceptable for Arsenal. He is practically holding his club for a ransom. A club where he is an icon and captain! Theres only one way to sort this out.

Sounds to me like your comparing previous players to this on going saga...ie flamoney,cashly and co....


Put it in a nutshell the guy is 30,injury prone,not the quickest,
so for arsenal and vp to come to a decision is not gonna be a quick simple fix...he could be offered more elsewhere but fall as an giant in our eyes he has come to be....


I personally think he will be a Gooner til he retires.

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Re: The Van Persie Thread

Post by Michael Foster on Tue Jul 03, 2012 2:45 am

Steve Dawson wrote:Reports are saying that we've turned down a bid from Juventus for RVP. For £8m!!!! Are they having an actual laugh?!?!


xD

Ronaldo £80.000.00

Van persie £8.000.00

Where was that report in the British daily bollocks?

Speaking of bollocks...that 8mil would probably buy his left nut...

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Re: The Van Persie Thread

Post by Jonathan Prendergast on Tue Jul 03, 2012 9:40 am

It was the Mirror. Say no more. Absolute nonsense.

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Re: The Van Persie Thread

Post by Michael Foster on Tue Jul 03, 2012 8:04 pm

Few places are popping up with the news that van persie will conclude his contract talks this week...hopefully we will have an answer by the weekend...

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