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Post by JavierVen on Thu Feb 16, 2012 9:26 am

Jason Morrison wrote:
nick koupparis wrote:
Highbury wrote:just me or sagna is having a very poor performance?

very very poor

The guy just came back from a 4 month injury, give him a break. Not like we had better RB options, and I don't believe coq would have done much better.

so why not play with Coquelin?
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Post by Jason Morrison on Thu Feb 16, 2012 9:26 am

OptaJean 5 – Zlatan
Ibrahimovic is the first player to
score in five consecutive CL
appearances since Marouane
Chamakh in Oct 2010. Ponytail.

Lol, chamakh... and scoring... ah those were the days.
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Post by JavierVen on Thu Feb 16, 2012 9:28 am

Someone knows something about the press conference?

It will be very interesting what Arsene says...
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Post by Ed Spence on Thu Feb 16, 2012 9:28 am

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John Foxall wrote:Of course Wenger made no effort to adapt his tactics to the opposition or the two-legged tie but this is nothing new.

I've come to realize Wenger never adjusta tactics to oppositions, never do we change playing style or formation based on who we play. Always the same tactics with players sometimes shifted around cause of rests or injuries.

You sir have a point. Who needs to be adaptable anyway...
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Post by Jason Morrison on Thu Feb 16, 2012 9:30 am

Highbury wrote:Someone knows something about the press conference?

It will be very interesting what Arsene says...

We lacked a lito bit of sharpness and mental stwengf...
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Post by Adriel Williams on Thu Feb 16, 2012 9:31 am

Jeesssus a loss this weekend would be too much.

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Post by Michael Schatzky on Thu Feb 16, 2012 9:32 am

Hisham El Mawan wrote:Horrible result, and we're probably done in the CL this year, but a lot of people are acting like it's the end of the world right now. Honestly, this frees us up to go for the FA Cup and to chase down Tottenham in the league.
I'd like to think so, maybe they'll get back to Blighty and forget it ever happened. Italian mirage.
This squad is different than last years, but what the CC final showed me was that this sort of shit form is infectious like fucking Ebola and can destroy the rest of your season. Hopefully not so this year?

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Post by Jason Morrison on Thu Feb 16, 2012 9:33 am

Adriel Williams wrote:Jeesssus a loss this weekend would be too much.

Too much, thats how Arsenal roll these days, except its not too much winning ir trophies but rather grief for the fans:(
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Post by JavierVen on Thu Feb 16, 2012 9:36 am

Jason Morrison wrote:
Highbury wrote:Someone knows something about the press conference?

It will be very interesting what Arsene says...

We lacked a lito bit of sharpness and mental stwengf...

and will also complain about the pitch Wink
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Post by janelle.noel on Thu Feb 16, 2012 9:37 am

Jason Morrison wrote:
Highbury wrote:Someone knows something about the press conference?

It will be very interesting what Arsene says...

We lacked a lito bit of sharpness and mental stwengf...

Just saw him on SkySports, he was actually pretty frank and said defensively and attacking as a unit we were poor; and suffered same old problems being well beaten in challenges

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Post by Mario on Thu Feb 16, 2012 9:38 am

I'm not sure that the Arsenal team of recent seasons has been able to just say 'never mind, we'll just concentrate on this competition now' and carry on like it's never happened. We lose a big game and get worse from there with our confidence and belief drained.

Although the difference this season is that rather than start well and then fade off we've had bad patches of form throughout the season. If we went on to falter now it wouldn't necessarily be a hangover from tonight's game, it will just be typical Arsenal in the 2011-12 season. I.e. not good enough. We'll see.

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Post by Jason Morrison on Thu Feb 16, 2012 9:43 am

janelle.noel wrote:
Jason Morrison wrote:
Highbury wrote:Someone knows something about the press conference?

It will be very interesting what Arsene says...

We lacked a lito bit of sharpness and mental stwengf...

Just saw him on SkySports, he was actually pretty frank and said defensively and attacking as a unit we were poor; and suffered same old problems being well beaten in challenges

Well I hope he ducking realizes the problems we have now. Oh, wait, you could've said that for any if the past 3-6 years now already and still nothing is done to address problema clearly visable to every single football fan. Our defensive style needs looking at and we clearly need priper decent reinforcements in certain areas of the pitch especially creatively after fab and nasri left.
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Post by Stephen Mitchell on Thu Feb 16, 2012 9:44 am

Jeez.

Yes, we were dreadful. Some poor performances from people who we really should be able to count on (Vermaelen and Sagna). But some of the reactionary comments I've seen on the net in the last hour are laughable. People were talking us up after two good results in the league recently, and all of a sudden one result shows how deficient we are in every single department, the death knell of Arsenal football club and a sign of our inexorable slide...

Milan are a very good side, and we took a hiding. Yes, tonight was unacceptable. But I don't understand how this symbolises the current state of our side any more than the 7-1 win against Blackburn does, or our excellent run of form from October to December. The world didn't end tonight. Sunderland next on Saturday afternoon.

Rant over, apologies.
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Post by Stephen Mitchell on Thu Feb 16, 2012 9:48 am

Mario Leontiou wrote:I'm not sure that the Arsenal team of recent seasons has been able to just say 'never mind, we'll just concentrate on this competition now' and carry on like it's never happened. We lose a big game and get worse from there with our confidence and belief drained.

Although the difference this season is that rather than start well and then fade off we've had bad patches of form throughout the season. If we went on to falter now it wouldn't necessarily be a hangover from tonight's game, it will just be typical Arsenal in the 2011-12 season. I.e. not good enough. We'll see.

We've been here before. We were consistently shocking for much of 2005/06, and still managed to concentrate on one competition (ironically, the Champions League).
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Post by Will.sheng on Thu Feb 16, 2012 9:52 am

Sorry to say, but we will lose the FA cup. Year after year when we get knocked out of a competition, we just completely fall apart. It wasnt too bad to fall apart in previous seasons coz we were so far ahead of the chasing pack, but this year...could be the worst yet. Pessimistic, but also realistic and a reflection on past seasons. I wont watch another live game this season, every one I have, they've lost. I'll continue to support, but I just can't bare or be arsed to watch another defeat.

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Post by jason.mandryk on Thu Feb 16, 2012 9:59 am

As Dan Hakim already said, it's not the loss (or even the CL exit), it's the manner of the loss. There was some bad luck and worse luck tonight (offside, TV's slip, injury to Kos), but it really didn't look like anyone wanted to be out there. Ill prepared, full of fear and without intensity.

Worse than just being shit....we were poorly prepared in terms of tactics, in terms of mentality and attitude, along with a failure to adjust, tactically, in attitude, even in boots - i didn't see many Milan looking like they were playing on a slip n slide.

Sure we have been just lacking this season in overall quality, only RVP displayed any real class. But tonight was not about quality, it was about performance and preparation.

When was the last time our GK made a string of key saves (like Abbiati did)? He must have one of the lowest save % stats amongst PL keepers.
Can't have shot of Theo fast enough, honestly.

Sure hope that Kos is OK! If that's a serious injury, we are in a tight spot. Fear and trembling with Spurs upcoming. Arsenal, teetering on the edge - the performance against Sunderland will tell us everything about the rest of this season.
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Post by Mario on Thu Feb 16, 2012 9:59 am

Stephen Mitchell wrote:
Mario Leontiou wrote:I'm not sure that the Arsenal team of recent seasons has been able to just say 'never mind, we'll just concentrate on this competition now' and carry on like it's never happened. We lose a big game and get worse from there with our confidence and belief drained.

Although the difference this season is that rather than start well and then fade off we've had bad patches of form throughout the season. If we went on to falter now it wouldn't necessarily be a hangover from tonight's game, it will just be typical Arsenal in the 2011-12 season. I.e. not good enough. We'll see.

We've been here before. We were consistently shocking for much of 2005/06, and still managed to concentrate on one competition (ironically, the Champions League).


True, and that league campaign was pretty bad. Although hard to compare sides 6 years apart. That was an almost entirely different team to what we have now with nowhere near the same experience or even quality. We're not suddenly a useless, mid-table side and we are going to be competing for 4th spot right until the death (don't think we will get it, though) but our squad is being stretched again and with players going backwards as the season has gone on, it's hard to get too optimistic.


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Post by JavierVen on Thu Feb 16, 2012 10:06 am

Honestly anyone thinks that we can win 5 to 0 at milan in london?

If I were Arsene would bet all for F.A.
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Post by janelle.noel on Thu Feb 16, 2012 10:10 am

o Wenger also said it looks like a knee problem with Kos and looks definitely out for the weekend Neutral

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Post by jason.mandryk on Thu Feb 16, 2012 10:12 am

I honestly thought about a month ago that Spurs would start to unravel, Chelsea would sort their mess out and we would pip Spurs for 4th. Looks like our only hope of a CL position is AVB's continued incompetence and his staying in a job.
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Post by Adam Sisson on Thu Feb 16, 2012 10:25 am

So I had gone into communications black out for the game, not wanting to know the score. I had DVR'd it at home and was just going to come home, make some dinner, and sit down with a beer and watch the game just as if I was watching it live.

15 minutes in they scored. I didn't even hesitate to grab my phone and check the score after that. Why? Because after 15 minutes we were so poor with our passing, lacking any type of drive, and just going through the motions that I knew it was not going to be worth it to watch the rest of the game.

First thing I see is 4-0 Milan and I wasn't even surprised.

I don't think the term "shower of shit" could ever be used more appropriately, and that was only after 15 minutes of viewing.
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Post by Mario on Thu Feb 16, 2012 10:26 am

David Ornstein @bbcsport_david
Arsenal this season against rest of EPL top 7 (in all comps) plus AC Milan: P9 W1 D1 L7 GF9 GA23

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Post by Ed Spence on Thu Feb 16, 2012 10:29 am

I've just had a vision, 5-1 at home, we win on penalties. I'm putting 50p on it... probably.
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Post by Alex Hadjicharalampous on Thu Feb 16, 2012 10:31 am

Ed Spence wrote:I've just had a vision, 5-1 at home, we win on penalties. I'm putting 50p on it... probably.

We go out if it's 5-1. bounce
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Post by Ed Spence on Thu Feb 16, 2012 10:35 am

Alex Hadjicharalampous wrote:
Ed Spence wrote:I've just had a vision, 5-1 at home, we win on penalties. I'm putting 50p on it... probably.

We go out if it's 5-1. bounce

Good point.

I have a vision, 6-1 at home, we win on penalties. I'm putting 40p on it... maybe.
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