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Post by janelle.noel on Mon Feb 13, 2012 10:38 am

Thought about starting this thread for laughs then saw this post in the other thread so here goes

" Will.sheng Today at 7:27 am

Only RVP.

Flops of the year?

De Gea, Torres, Chamakh, Bendtner, David Luiz, Carlos Tevez, John Terry, Andy Carroll.

Just to name a few..."

Would add stewart Downing and samir nasri haha

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Post by Samritpal Singh on Mon Feb 13, 2012 11:55 am

Don't think De Gea is a flop. He's a good goalkeeper actually. United's defence has been rubbish.
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Post by Sami Rockfeller on Mon Feb 13, 2012 12:16 pm

De Gea has made some errors but is definitely by no means a flop, he's also made some crucial saves which have saved Utd some points.

Stefan Savic, Torres, Chamakh and Downing top the list of flops for me.
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Post by Will.sheng on Tue Feb 14, 2012 5:20 am

Ashley Young has trailed off drastically since the start of the season as well. Expensive buy too...

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Post by Sami Rockfeller on Tue Feb 14, 2012 5:24 am

Ashley Young was injured.
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Post by Jason Morrison on Tue Feb 14, 2012 5:37 am

@janelle.noel wrote:Thought about starting this thread for laughs then saw this post in the other thread so here goes

" Will.sheng Today at 7:27 am

Only RVP.

Flops of the year?

De Gea, Torres, Chamakh, Bendtner, David Luiz, Carlos Tevez, John Terry, Andy Carroll.

Just to name a few..."

Would add stewart Downing and samir nasri haha

Change the thread title to flop of the year/season or something since all players who don't win PFA POTY are NOT PFA player of the year.

In anycase the obvious ones would be all of those expensive players who worked out pretty shit in terms of bang for money. Torres obviously the biggest flop of all and worthy of a golden bin award. Next would be almost all of Liverpool's signings last year and a bunch of others mentioned above.
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Post by Alan Dawson on Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:02 am

Torres is not only the flop of the season, but of all time. It's no debate. He is, pound-for-pound, the worst signing ever. Of any league, in any country, of any era.

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Post by Vanig Bostanian on Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:28 am

@Alan Dawson wrote:Torres is not only the flop of the season, but of all time. It's no debate. He is, pound-for-pound, the worst signing ever. Of any league, in any country, of any era.
WOW hahaha that was a joy to read.

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Post by Jason Morrison on Tue Feb 14, 2012 8:28 am

Van Roy Bostanian wrote:
@Alan Dawson wrote:Torres is not only the flop of the season, but of all time. It's no debate. He is, pound-for-pound, the worst signing ever. Of any league, in any country, of any era.
WOW hahaha that was a joy to read.

Its the absolute truth though...
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Post by DaveToffy on Tue Feb 14, 2012 2:55 pm

@Jason Morrison wrote:
Van Roy Bostanian wrote:
@Alan Dawson wrote:Torres is not only the flop of the season, but of all time. It's no debate. He is, pound-for-pound, the worst signing ever. Of any league, in any country, of any era.
WOW hahaha that was a joy to read.

Its the absolute truth though...
I really think its quite sad too because he used to be an absolutely electric player on his day... Those times when he made Vidic & Terry look like clowns and breeze by defenders with ease.. It's truly amazing how far he's fallen. I actually feel kinda bad for him.
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Post by janelle.noel on Tue Feb 14, 2012 3:51 pm

@Alan Dawson wrote:Torres is not only the flop of the season, but of all time. It's no debate. He is, pound-for-pound, the worst signing ever. Of any league, in any country, of any era.

HAHAHA Thats great!

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Post by Will.sheng on Tue Feb 14, 2012 7:09 pm

It was bound to happen with Torres tho. Just look at their previous big strikers. Crespo, shevchenko - big buck signings with huge reputations as the worlds best. Come to chelsea, and they fall into our "not pfa player of the year" discussion, which is the worst honour any footballer could get. Anelka was probably their only decent striker since they signed Drogba.

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Post by Vanig Bostanian on Tue Feb 14, 2012 10:03 pm

@DaveToffy wrote:
@Jason Morrison wrote:
Van Roy Bostanian wrote:
@Alan Dawson wrote:Torres is not only the flop of the season, but of all time. It's no debate. He is, pound-for-pound, the worst signing ever. Of any league, in any country, of any era.
WOW hahaha that was a joy to read.

Its the absolute truth though...
I really think its quite sad too because he used to be an absolutely electric player on his day... Those times when he made Vidic & Terry look like clowns and breeze by defenders with ease.. It's truly amazing how far he's fallen. I actually feel kinda bad for him.
I only want him to do bad because he's a Chelsea player. There was a time he was my favorite non-Arsenal player. I really liked the guy. As Dave said, there was the time he made the best defenders look like children

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Post by Michael Foster on Wed Feb 15, 2012 4:26 am

Makes you wonder why he is performing so bad...he must have a lot going round in his head every game....

Shame it's not a lot in the onion bag...
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Post by Alan Dawson on Wed Feb 15, 2012 7:31 am

It didn't happen at chelsea, though. He's been complete garbage since 2010. In a World Cup winning side with Spain he was arguably the least important player, scoring a grand total of zero. Then he was just dire in his final season with Liverpool. In 2009 he scored a lot, was a threat, but in and out of the team because of injury. He'd score pretty much every game, then go lame, return, score every game, go lame. Until eventually the goals dried up.

He peaked around 22/23. He's 27 now and it'll just be downhill from here, imo.

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Post by Durrell on Wed Feb 15, 2012 7:45 am

@Alan Dawson wrote:It didn't happen at chelsea, though. He's been complete garbage since 2010. In a World Cup winning side with Spain he was arguably the least important player, scoring a grand total of zero. Then he was just dire in his final season with Liverpool. In 2009 he scored a lot, was a threat, but in and out of the team because of injury. He'd score pretty much every game, then go lame, return, score every game, go lame. Until eventually the goals dried up.

He peaked around 22/23. He's 27 now and it'll just be downhill from here, imo.

I think it's a case of what I like to call Scott Parker syndrome. Good at a small club when there is no pressure (A poor Atleti side, a poor Liverpool side), but can't deal with the pressure of being at a big club.
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Post by Alan Dawson on Wed Feb 15, 2012 7:54 am

Scott Parker didn't have many chances at Chelsea, though. Torres, conversely, has had a lot, in his final year with Liverpool and now at Chelsea, yet there are times when he's provided with a chance and he'll spoon the ball, or miss it completely. His rate of decline is the sharpest I've ever seen. He may as well be Brazilian.

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Post by Will.sheng on Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:38 am

I just dont get why chelsea bought a well out of form player for £50m. It was like their masterstroke of a shit transfer for Veron from Man U. He struggled from the end of the 2009/2010 season, all through the world cup and then to the next transfer window, yet still went for him. Made no sense at all. Makes me glad to know we have Wenger who spends pennies on lowly players yet perform better than players like torres.

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Post by Zaid Derweesh on Mon Feb 20, 2012 2:16 pm

@Alan Dawson wrote:Torres is not only the flop of the season, but of all time. It's no debate. He is, pound-for-pound, the worst signing ever. Of any league, in any country, of any era.

What makes it even worse is that he's a Euro winner, World Cup winner, and Premier League proven. So yes, I think that does make him the biggest flop of all time, considering his price tag and his goals (or lack thereof). Even with Shevchenko, you could say they signed him past his prime, coming to a new league.

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Post by John Foxall on Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:11 pm

The problem is Drogba. He's their best striker but he a) is the main man and won't let anyone else in on his patch, b) plays as the only striker, c) the side is set up to play to his strengths.

As for Parker, I can remember him playing right midfield against us in the FA cup when Reyes scored his two goals. Why? Because he was an unnecessary purchase, they already had Makelele, who was irreplaceable.

The idea that Parker is a God for a small club but not great for a better club is being disproved this season. When he left Charlton in the 03/04 winter break they were fourth, a lot of that was down to him. He's doing well at Spurs as well. He's a good player.

As for Shevchenko, Crespo, Torres. They were great for clubs that knew how to use them. Chelsea are a disgraceful pile of shit with an meddling owner who does these players more harm than good. They should stay at clubs with some sense of footballing culture and who invest in them properly. Torres, nevertheless, is still the worst of the bunch. Shevchenko and Crespo still scored some good goals in their time at Chelsea.

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Post by Vanig Bostanian on Tue Feb 21, 2012 5:22 am

@John Foxall wrote:
As for Shevchenko, Crespo, Torres. They were great for clubs that knew how to use them. Chelsea are a disgraceful pile of shit with an meddling owner who does these players more harm than good. They should stay at clubs with some sense of footballing culture and who invest in them properly. Torres, nevertheless, is still the worst of the bunch. Shevchenko and Crespo still scored some good goals in their time at Chelsea.
Not playing to his strengths doesn't justify missing sitters though.

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Post by John Foxall on Tue Feb 21, 2012 11:03 am

Are you talking about Torres? He's certainly been awful. I have nothing good to say about him. Certainly made a good impression in his season at Liverpool but he seemed to spend more time working out how to leave Liverpool than concentrating on his form.

Joining Chelsea as Abramovich's pet purchase guarantees failure.


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